I ask for 3 main things as far as gameplay

[DIECI]

PES2011 has a lot of potential but has some issues that really irriate me. The 3 main gameplay issues I have that I would like Konami to look at and fix.

1. floating ball effect, it still happens even after the patch, not as much as before but still happens and it gets annoying

2. curser issue, it still happens, the AI gets confused who to give you and control.

3. offensive players losing speed and defenders magically catching up to them. PLease change this Konami! I know you did this ti compensate for the good passing but cmon, NO NO NO FIX IT!

 

[xelliotx]

On number 2, yes yes yes! Online my players won't know what to do and will stand there instead of going for the ball, thus me losing it.

Number 3, I have a Sow on MLO who has 87 pace, he's fast OFF the ball, but as soon as he's on it, EVERYONE is faster than him

 

[vjdude13]

#3 is big for me as well

i mean how often do u see xabi alonso get beaten by by messi or bale or lennon or whoever and all of a sudden get back and take the ball away

 

[zizou4ever]

There are lots of problems in gameplay to be fixed. Those 3 are important for sure. But please don't forget others like:

- too obvious scripting. Why not a clever AI instead?
- sometimes you feel that you don't have the control of your players. They are running out of your control after a pass or catching a ball. You must use super cancel in this situation. So, my point is: where is the freedom that Konami claimed to have given us? The freedom of use the super cancel?
- off the ball movements. When will I have the control to indicate my team mates to run in attack?
- goal keeper control: it is still VERY limited.
- shield the ball and close control: what? Do we have that in PES 2011? Yes, but it is terrible and it should be much better.
- heading the ball too easy and at the same time too unpredictable: why not a system that requires more control from us (humans) instead of AI? Maybe one command to jump and another to head the ball? It would be more rewarding.
- tactical awareness is terrible: we don't have the control to where our players will be in the field. If I want my CF to be always in the box, I should not make different things to wait for him to go to his position that he was expected to be in the first place. The same for the SBs.
- referees: they still need improvement.

So, this is a very short list just about gameplay. There is much more about it and I am not even start with other issues (different modes, functions in the tactical menu that Konami removed for no reason, etc.).

Well, let's see what they will delivery this time...

 

[Typho2k]

ahh

listen to the man above me, he's one of the very few with a clue about what's wrong with pes.

 

[pjoe]

they just said.. "real football" 'real football'
..as long as KONAMI do not make clothes dirty
there is no real football . dont just keep thinking about gameplay..graphic ..strategy.. etc.. common KONAMI .. i am FAN PES..

 

[DIECI]

they just said.. "real football" 'real football'
..as long as KONAMI do not make clothes dirty
there is no real football . dont just keep thinking about gameplay..graphic ..strategy.. etc.. common KONAMI .. i am FAN PES..

you want dirty cloths over improved gameplay? :spank:

 

[Zorac1979]

3. offensive players losing speed and defenders magically catching up to them. PLease change this Konami! I know you did this ti compensate for the good passing but cmon, NO NO NO FIX IT!

LOL. That is so true, having C.Ronaldo being caught up by John Terry after having a 5 yard head start is amusing to watch.

 

[Neox9114]

I am an avid Master League player but Konami really f'ed up for me with all the new prodigies that started spawning throughout the game, In my own academy I had a 19 yr old Goalkeeper with a 95 rating, I was like WTF... left me no choice but to bench Casillas....

 

[Khels]

PES2011 has a lot of potential but has some issues that really irriate me. The 3 main gameplay issues I have that I would like Konami to look at and fix.

1. floating ball effect, it still happens even after the patch, not as much as before but still happens and it gets annoying

2. curser issue, it still happens, the AI gets confused who to give you and control.

3. offensive players losing speed and defenders magically catching up to them. PLease change this Konami! I know you did this ti compensate for the good passing but cmon, NO NO NO FIX IT!

You took the words right out of my mouth... Well in this case, right of my fingers *lol*
One other concern i have is the exaggerated level of attack the opposition team has immediately after you score a goal. 95% of the time you will not win the ball until they have had a shot at goal. I also hate the fact that no matter how strong/ tough my players are, I just never seem to be able to win 50/50 challenges. These little things are annoying to say the least. The game must live up to it's "simulation" claims and players must play according to their ratings

 

[Sabatasso]

4. When you're passing in one direction (usually forward) and there's two team mates in that direction, how come the closest player always ignore the pass if the other player is in offside. But if no one is in offside, the first player takes the ball and destroy a perfectly good through ball... WHY? FIX!!!

5. Offside.. Ok, everyone runs offside from time to time, but in real life they actually try to get the fuck out of it again when you're still in possession. In PES they hang around a few meter into offside for large periods of time. FIX!!!

The game must live up to it's "simulation" claims and players must play according to their ratings

Show me an official Konami claim that they are in fact a "simulation".

I'm not trying to be an ass here, but expected to be a "whatever" and trying to be a "whatever" is two different things.

 

[SDAV89]

3 is a issue I believe will never be sorted it will always be like that.

 

[-BreaL-]

PES2011 has a lot of potential but has some issues that really irriate me. The 3 main gameplay issues I have that I would like Konami to look at and fix.

1. floating ball effect, it still happens even after the patch, not as much as before but still happens and it gets annoying

2. curser issue, it still happens, the AI gets confused who to give you and control.

3. offensive players losing speed and defenders magically catching up to them. PLease change this Konami! I know you did this ti compensate for the good passing but cmon, NO NO NO FIX IT!

This is in short why PES isn't the Old pes!!

 

[abu97]

All you lot are on about defenders catching up with strikers, however this is realistic - man u vs barcelona, how much timess did messi with 98 dribble speed be caught up with park ji sung. Or what about when rosicky caught up with C.ronaldo with 97 dribble speed. remember when you have the ball you run slower so it is easier for defenders to catch up with you. And the fact a defender has balance to push you off the ball so it is realistic

 

[shaun7]

^I agree, (however messi wasn't caught up, they closed his space, well they tried to at least ) but pes 11 sort of over did it because even if you use the knock the ball further technique, the defenders will still outrun you. That's truly unrealistic.

And pes of the old had other things wrong. Anyway every pes had a flaw. It's just that pes 11 makes them appear more than others.

 

[relentlaz]

I just want them to bring down the pace of the game a bit more.

 

[IronCity]

All you lot are on about defenders catching up with strikers, however this is realistic - man u vs barcelona, how much timess did messi with 98 dribble speed be caught up with park ji sung. Or what about when rosicky caught up with C.ronaldo with 97 dribble speed. remember when you have the ball you run slower so it is easier for defenders to catch up with you. And the fact a defender has balance to push you off the ball so it is realistic

Except that the rate of catch up is inhuman. Even if C.Ronaldo catches me from halfway across the pitch he should be able to pickpocket me without even trying.

I just want them to bring down the pace of the game a bit more.

Can't this be adjusted with game speed settings already? If I play exhibition at full condition, I have to decrease the speed to -1 or -2.

 

[relentlaz]

Can't this be adjusted with game speed settings already? If I play exhibition at full condition, I have to decrease the speed to -1 or -2.

You are right, you can adjust it for offline play only though. Online, you have no option for it(for obvious reasons).

 

[shaun7]

The gameply speed of pes 11 is fine. Seriously at 0, the game's pace is realistic. Football nowdays is faster and some people don't actually realise how fast today's game is. Some counter attacks I've seen are truly fast and this made me realise that the pace in pes 11 is fine at 0. HOWEVER, the animations make it seem like it's faster than it actually is. Frame skipping is a problem in pes 11 and is 1 reason for the speed to look like that.

But, the thing they need to fix in order to make the pace perfect is THE WAY THE BALL TRAVELS AND HOW FAST THE BALL GOES ACROSS THE PITCH. Every pass feels like its so fast thus making the pace of the game seem higher than it actually is.

The passing speed is the real issue not the player's speed. (defenders catching up is adifferent issue).

 

[89cruefan]

2. curser issue, it still happens, the AI gets confused who to give you and control.

3. offensive players losing speed and defenders magically catching up to them. PLease change this Konami! I know you did this ti compensate for the good passing but cmon, NO NO NO FIX IT!

These two definately

4) Ai control glitches... example in ML i was using Wijnaldum and clicked to do i slide tackle.. his tackle went perfectly. However at the same time Smalling decided to slide tackle as well(a player who was off the ball) gave away a penalty and got sent off. Passes going the opposite ways.

5) Offside line so far up the pitch? weird.

6) Make the opposition less forgiving... The difficulty for me isnt the problem as there are games on the top level where i can struggle to score.. However when the computer ai have possesion, make them actually attack and shoot... On average the opposition gets between 0-3 shots in my games... Most the time none of them go in... Make them take more shots and score more