I bought FIFA

[eMerica]

Ive rinsed Fifa 11 sinse friday and know Im bored with it already, not much has changed over 12 months, except some transfers and kits... still scoring the same goals I scored in the World Cup game... Bring on PES 2011!

 

[Stormrider]

I've been really tempted to buy Fifa 11 this week as Pes doesn't release in my country until the 19th. After finally trying the demo today I'm glad I resisted. Plays very much the same as last year which I didn't like all that much. Same situations keep happening over and over. I was excited to see how good the players look now because of all the praise they've been getting from the reviews but they still look like ass. Even with the big names it's hard to tell who's who. Also I don't notice the difference between Fifa 10's passing and Fifa 11's "pro passing". I'll just save my money and wait another 2 weeks.

 

[TorresYNWA]

Don't be silly. FIFA has been good for 3 years now, FIFA 11 is very good imo. I bought it £37.97 first day and it's a very good football game with plenty to do. However, yes this is the year PES is officially BACK. I pre-ordered it shortly after the demo was released and haven't looked back since. PES beats FIFA hands down in the passing game = gameplay. There is so much more you can do on PES, whereas FIFA relies solely on 1 touch football and through balls, but it's a good game nontheless.

 

[vietfan09]

FIFA = good game indeed

Pes = Great game plus fun.

At the end of the day , both are fun right , now lets get some matches on guys ! We know we all love Football or Soccer whichever you prefer to call. We called it Soccer here in the U.S. , but we all know everyone called it FOOTBALL ( Play by the foot ) as I always called it Football when I come to a real Football Forum.

 

[Avelives]

Ive never understood the 'simulation' tag that FIFA seems to now have coined. All reviewers rave on about how PES is 'arcadey' and 'fifa' is realistic and more a true football fans choice.

Personally Id say the total opposite. Fifa is not a bad game, my nephew owns various incarnations of it from the past few years, and to be honest I enjoy it on a very shallow level when playing him. But to me it takes no mastery at all, its definately what Id call arcadey, theres no depth to it. Once you've mastered certain aspects its a question of repeating them and to be honest the game plays like its on rails most of the time.

With players tele-passing the ball to each others big toes with inch perfect accuracy, even old hoofers like 1st div CBs seem to be as good as the likes of Iniesta as long as the player controlling them knows what to do. Let me put it this way over the years when Ive introduced fifa faithful to PES they cannot ever get the hang of it, its to fiddly they say or to slow and considered, they don't like that you cant ping pong pass it with ease, they don't like that when they play as a good team the AI can beat them with a flukey shot then defend like their lives depended on it for 90mins... I could go on but im probably preaching to the converted.

What baffles me is that reviewers seem to get dazzled by the licenses and presentation every year, honestly a 'true' football fan wouldn't be swayed by such fluff. Its like saying 'im a true fan of music - but unless singers all look like models im not interested'

Like I said fifa has its place, arguably its a better multiplayer experience online, and its easier to get some casual gamer mates round and everyone will pick it up in no time (the after pub crowd) But PES takes time to master and its a cruel mistress, no other game has inspired such anger and joy in me (genuinely) Ive often been moaned at by the wife for swearing at the computerised referee (shameful I know)

To me PES has a soul, an element I cant even properly describe that FIFA has never had and likely never will.

 

[zee ole]

I think the one big difference between both games is emotion. Nothing serious, but you get that satisfied feeling when you score a goal in PES, no matter where its from. On FIFA, a goal just feels like another day in the office. Not sure what it is, but it just feels lifeless and motionless when you score in FIFA, almost like its just to easy and predictable. Thats the thing missing with FIFA.

Another advantage with PES is, your literally making half the game yourself with the edit mode. So many possibilitys its exciting. Once you've edited kits or corrected names, and its all done, you feel pleased with yourself, and the game feels complete because youve made it complete yourself.

So PES will over have the upper hand with in game emotion.

 

[Avelives]

I think the one big difference between both games is emotion. Nothing serious, but you get that satisfied feeling when you score a goal in PES, no matter where its from. On FIFA, a goal just feels like another day in the office. Not sure what it is, but it just feels lifeless and motionless when you score in FIFA, almost like its just to easy and predictable. Thats the thing missing with FIFA.

Another advantage with PES is, your literally making half the game yourself with the edit mode. So many possibilitys its exciting. Once you've edited kits or corrected names, and its all done, you feel pleased with yourself, and the game feels complete because youve made it complete yourself.

So PES will over have the upper hand with in game emotion.

Yeah I agree 100%
Also odd how in the reviews when they mention lack of licenses they rarely mention the awesome edit features available which is as good as any game around for the freedom it allows.

 

[Athlon_]

PES makes you jump around like an idiot when you win something. If I ever win the CL in Master League I know I will be all over the place.

Never had that from FIFA, never will. It just leaves you completely cold

 

[valroy]

I was lucky enough to get PES 2011 last week (freebie at work), if it wasn't for that, i almost certainly would've got FIFA 11, after playing both demos, i felt that PES passing and overall flow of the game was much better, FIFA 11 for me has regressed since i played the demo of EA's world cup game, when i played that, i was really impressed, and i thought if FIFA 11 is anything like that, i'll probably go for that, but it was more like last year's effort again.
PES 2011 though, is excellent, apart from the penalty shooting system, and the fact that the advantage rule is non-existent, it doesn't take away from what is an engrossing game!

 

[byrnie05]

I was tempted to buy FIFA, but considering I found the WC game to be a soulless experience after the first couple of games, I thought better of it and continued to play PES10. It seems to get better with age. I think they did update it to some extent with DLC, because it feels a more satisfying game than when it launched.

 

[Hunter]

Don't be silly. FIFA has been good for 3 years now, FIFA 11 is very good imo. I bought it £37.97 first day and it's a very good football game with plenty to do. However, yes this is the year PES is officially BACK. I pre-ordered it shortly after the demo was released and haven't looked back since. PES beats FIFA hands down in the passing game = gameplay. There is so much more you can do on PES, whereas FIFA relies solely on 1 touch football and through balls, but it's a good game nontheless.

You do realise FIFA 11 was £29 in Asda upon release? Although I do agree with you that FIFA 11 seems like a good game, I quite enjoyed the online experience of FIFA 10 and it appears as if FIFA 11 is simply a more refined version, FIFA 10.5 if you will. I'll probably get it eventually, but I'm not prepared to pay a big amount of money for it I'm afraid. I'm in the same boat as you though, and thankfully despite only playing the FIFA demo, I think I'll be enjoying both this year but for very different reasons.

Ive never understood the 'simulation' tag that FIFA seems to now have coined. All reviewers rave on about how PES is 'arcadey' and 'fifa' is realistic and more a true football fans choice.

Personally Id say the total opposite. Fifa is not a bad game, my nephew owns various incarnations of it from the past few years, and to be honest I enjoy it on a very shallow level when playing him. But to me it takes no mastery at all, its definately what Id call arcadey, theres no depth to it. Once you've mastered certain aspects its a question of repeating them and to be honest the game plays like its on rails most of the time.

With players tele-passing the ball to each others big toes with inch perfect accuracy, even old hoofers like 1st div CBs seem to be as good as the likes of Iniesta as long as the player controlling them knows what to do. Let me put it this way over the years when Ive introduced fifa faithful to PES they cannot ever get the hang of it, its to fiddly they say or to slow and considered, they don't like that you cant ping pong pass it with ease, they don't like that when they play as a good team the AI can beat them with a flukey shot then defend like their lives depended on it for 90mins... I could go on but im probably preaching to the converted.

What baffles me is that reviewers seem to get dazzled by the licenses and presentation every year, honestly a 'true' football fan wouldn't be swayed by such fluff. Its like saying 'im a true fan of music - but unless singers all look like models im not interested'

Like I said fifa has its place, arguably its a better multiplayer experience online, and its easier to get some casual gamer mates round and everyone will pick it up in no time (the after pub crowd) But PES takes time to master and its a cruel mistress, no other game has inspired such anger and joy in me (genuinely) Ive often been moaned at by the wife for swearing at the computerised referee (shameful I know)

To me PES has a soul, an element I cant even properly describe that FIFA has never had and likely never will.

Spot on.

 

[DrJambo]

I've played both demos quite a bit and I must admit it's really hard to make up my mind as to which I wholeheartedly prefer. I believe I'm slightly more inclined towards PES 11 but it's far from obvious.

In favour of PES:
More freedom in your play.
More interesting attacking play and goal mouth action.
Far better crossing and heading.
Freekicks now seem scorable for both me and AI! PES 2010 was awful here.
Better long passing.
A feeling of depth re learning the game.

In favour of FIFA:
Quicker and more acadey. Not sure this is really a pro, but it does mean FIFA is accessible and fun.
Easier to control player movement and actions (PES can feel like the players are running on an ice-rink at times).
Penalties are clearly better.
Glitz, commentary and licences (obviously).
Advantage rule done well!

A big unanswered question is obviously the quality of the online play. Recent PES iterations have been pretty dire here.

 

[Gun_Runner]

a lot of hate towards fifa in this thread, to be honest fifa has been king for the last 2/3 years at least.

Fair enough PES has drastically improved this year, but it still has major flaws which are actually really simple to fix. eg.
- advantage rule, theyve totally fucked that up to say the least
- lack of being able to do a decent trick to get out of trouble/showboat
- overall defending isnt great
- I still feel as though I can only move in 8 directions

 

[zubanz]

not true with the tricks bit gun_runner

If you go into the command list and look at the feints tab, you can do any of the tricks/feints with the L2 button and Left and Right analog sticks

 

[Spursman]

I really like Fifa this year, i think its really fun to play.I love the sound and animations on the game and its more of a pick up and play game.

I have been a fan of Pes for yeeeears! and still am. love the new game i just dont like the shooting. I think they have made it tooo real. Its a game and you should be able to do some fun things. I really love when the ball smashes the bar tho! makes a great sound. Only played the demo and will be getting the game on friday for sure. Think there are lots of good things about the game but also a fair amount of poor stuff they could easily have changed.

Pes -
passing is fun
graphics are amazing
speed of the game is good
shooting is poor
sound is poor

Fifa
Can ping the ball about
smooth
sound is really good,, even when a player is clean through at goal the crowd respond,
animations are really good.like when u jump up for a header, both players tussle like in real life. on pes they just stand there, no jostling at all.

Might get fifa aswell as pes as i think they are both good games to play this year.

If only the ea team & konami could make a game together! that would be a great game.

 

[Sho]

I seem to score alot of simular goals! Roll on this Friday!

Exactly!!!