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If Konami Can Implement What Is In The Press Release......

RAMAXWY

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some news about the new game by a guy who did the same last year but it doesn't sound too good though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronaldinho_23
Hola, hace tiempo que no posteo.

- Se han observado fallos en el sistema de pase, controles y regates que dificultan esa presunta libertad de movimiento/accion
- Las porterias son identicas a PES2010
- Apenas hay cambios en la iluminacion de varios estadios que estaban mal (bernabeu)


Personalmente, espero que esto sea corregido.

please, translate me
Failures have been observed in the pass system, and dribbling controls that hinder the alleged freedom of movement / action
- The goals are identical to PES2010
- Hardly any changes in the light of several stages that were wrong (bernabeu)
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=57296&page=44
 

Jess C

Registered User
16 august 2009:

He says:

more news:
- 360º Attaché Correct but doesn't feel like its implemented right (Not his fault though!)
- edit boots Nope
- edit nets No sign of it
- control with joy-pad, no more Crosspiece Most likely this year but not in 2010
- more celebrations Not really
- untucked shirts Not in wide cam
- Some robotic movements not corrected Yes true
- goalkeepers gloves are corrected and licensed (nike,adidas..) No more mickey mouse gloves but not licensed I think
etc..

Most of this turned out to be incorrect. While some of what he has said has been accurate i'm still taking it all with a pinch of salt whether the information is positive or negative. Regarding the images I believe they were posted only a day before the embargo was lifted but I may be wrong.

Embargo ends in ten days, we'll see what happens.
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
Ok, I remember ronaldinho 23 from last year and i believe he was pretty damn accurate if i remember correctly, so his analysis isnt good so far for pes.

Now check this out, when OPM were questioned about player indviduality in fifa 11 this is what was said..

"Hi mate, Is FIFA 11 good? is the gameplay less static and is there finally Player individuality this year? cheers"

His response:

"Can't talk specific details until mid-June, sadly. But I don't think you'll be disappointed on either of those fronts.

Hmmmm. Surley not, fifa 11 to have player indviduality??? If so, PES needs to get worried because thats one of the final pieces in the ea jigsaw.

Reading wenb now and they are discrediting this ronaldinho_23 big time, but im sure last year he came up with the goods for the most part, they really are pathetic, reading also how there will be no pes gameplay videos on june 1st despite adam saying there would be (apparently), the guy really is a joke.
 

Jess C

Registered User
Yeah, it's all Adam's fault that Konami won't be releasing any videos...

BTW, considering all this went through Google Translate, Ronaldinho_23 claims he was misinterpreted:

Ronaldinho_23@Evo-Web said:
"For what I have read and "understand", I believe many of you have misinterpreted what I said.

What I meant is that "some" passes, controls and some movements look "predetermined", like it is in PES2010, in which the ball seems to be like "remote controlled" (not sure how to translate "teledirigido")

It is not something to be alarmed about, but it seems curious that if they say that the game is very "free" (as in freedom of actions, not scripted)that the passes are better and all this talk of 360 degrees, well, it seems out of place that these kinds of mistakes can happen"

It's also important to note that when he was asked about the positives; his response was "nothing you don't already know from the press release". MOTWYW
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
Yeah, it's all Adam's fault that Konami won't be releasing any videos...

Hold up..............

I didnt say it was his fault, but if there are no gameplay videos on june 1st when adam said there was (if adam has said that) then its classic adam misinformation.

To be honest, im at the stage now where i just wanna see some videos now, so i can judge this shite for myself.
 

RAMAXWY

Registered User
Hold up..............

I didnt say it was his fault, but if there are no gameplay videos on june 1st when adam said there was (if adam has said that) then its classic adam misinformation.

To be honest, im at the stage now where i just wanna see some videos now, so i can judge this shite for myself.

i know what you mean because i was looking forward to it also but wouldn't a video be a little too soon at this time especially an in game video ?
 

Jess C

Registered User
Hold up..............

I didnt say it was his fault, but if there are no gameplay videos on june 1st when adam said there was (if adam has said that) then its classic adam misinformation.

That's what your post implies.

To be honest I think its a little concerning that your natural assumption is Adam was lying about the information he was given rather than Konami simply adding stipulations to their embargo. Maybe they wanted to delay videos until a later build. Maybe the play test uncovered a few bugs they wanted to work out before they showed any videos to the public. It's only May, remember that. In fact I think the whole hatred of WENB is very concerning.

People need to understand that WENB is a dedicated fan-site that promotes positivity and optimism about the Pro Evolution series, one of the last sites at that. As hard as it is to believe, there are people that managed to enjoy PES2008-2010 and want to discuss their opinions with like-minded gamers. There are times when PESFan, PESGaming and Evo-Web explode with criticism and ridicule (Evo-Web in particular) at the first sign of a bug in PES, or if someone dares to have a positive outlook on the series/latest release, or dares to go against the mood of negativity, or dares to prefer PES over FIFA despite FIFA's technical advances. It makes for a very unpleasant environment for everyone.

Adam has overhyped PES in the past but he's admitted to it and been much more reserved in recent times. He can be militant with the way he moderates the site but you can't say it isn't warranted. People are allowed to express skeptical and constructively critical opinions on WENB, thats promoted, but outright negativity is clamped down upon simply because its a site for PES gamers who still enjoy the series regardless of how much they want Konami to get it right. If you don't like WENB then don't go there, simple as, its not going to change. There are plenty of PES fan-sites around to to accommodate your tastes.
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
That's what your post implies.

To be honest I think its a little concerning that your natural assumption is Adam was lying about the information he was given rather than Konami simply adding stipulations to their embargo. Maybe they wanted to delay videos until a later build. Maybe the play test uncovered a few bugs they wanted to work out before they showed any videos to the public. It's only May, remember that. In fact I think the whole hatred of WENB is very concerning.

People need to understand that WENB is a dedicated fan-site that promotes positivity and optimism about the Pro Evolution series, one of the last sites at that. As hard as it is to believe, there are people that managed to enjoy PES2008-2010 and want to discuss their opinions with like-minded gamers. There are times when PESFan, PESGaming and Evo-Web explode with criticism and ridicule (Evo-Web in particular) at the first sign of a bug in PES, or if someone dares to have a positive outlook on the series/latest release, or dares to go against the mood of negativity, or dares to prefer PES over FIFA despite FIFA's technical advances. It makes for a very unpleasant environment for everyone.

Adam has overhyped PES in the past but he's admitted to it and been much more reserved in recent times. He can be militant with the way he moderates the site but you can't say it isn't warranted. People are allowed to express skeptical and constructively critical opinions on WENB, thats promoted, but outright negativity is clamped down upon simply because its a site for PES gamers who still enjoy the series regardless of how much they want Konami to get it right. If you don't like WENB then don't go there, simple as, its not going to change. There are plenty of PES fan-sites around to to accommodate your tastes.

Honestly mate, your wasting your time with that shit. Adam is a fucking moron, end of, he gets people's hopes up and then lets em down him and his piece of shit site have been doing that for many years now, WENB is about his fucking ego, anytime he gets challenged on the forum, he resorts to pussy tactics like threatening to ban people, which as I pointed out before, defeats the object of having a forum in the 1st place.

He also gets down on his knees like some 2 dollar whore for konami, mouth wide open with John murphy pointing his dick in his face, ready to take whatever, in the hope konami may let them playtest the game a few days before everyone else or gives them some kind of exclusive, he talks as if he knows konami and knows exactly what they have planned, but the fact is, he knows about as much as every other fucker thats posts on that shit site which is why his information is frequently incorrect.

His fucking disciples that hang on his every word are a bunch of cock hoppers also, dont forget to tell them I said to fuck off.

And as for liar, yes that fucker lies, either that or he is delusional, do I need to grab the podcast from last year with him talking about the 'huge', 'mind blowing news' that was going to shock the community and how the final build was going to be way different to what we saw at gamescom (after orginally saying we were going to be blown away at gamescom and he fucked up on that promise too).

Any more fucking talk about this shit site, and i go and get that fucking podcast and put it up here so people can see how fucking stupid this cretin is.

Its a stupid site for little kids, see how you come on here and challenge my point, you think you could give adam a run for his money without that wankbag threatening to ban you?

Please.

So personally, i couldnt give a posh wank for your concerns, however, as a member on this forum, you have the right to come back at me with the same, you have the right to be negative about PES and you have the right to be positive about pes, you dont have that right (or certainly not to this degree) on wenb.
 

Jess C

Registered User
Honestly mate, your wasting your time with that shit. Adam is a fucking moron, end of, he gets people's hopes up and then lets em down him and his piece of shit site have been doing that for many years now, WENB is about his fucking ego, anytime he gets challenged on the forum, he resorts to pussy tactics like threatening to ban people, which as I pointed out before, defeats the object of having a forum in the 1st place.

He also gets down on his knees like some 2 dollar whore for konami, mouth wide open with John murphy pointing his dick in his face, ready to take whatever, in the hope konami may let them playtest the game a few days before everyone else or gives them some kind of exclusive, he talks as if he knows konami and knows exactly what they have planned, but the fact is, he knows about as much as every other fucker thats posts on that shit site which is why his information is frequently incorrect.

His fucking disciples that hang on his every word are a bunch of cock hoppers also, dont forget to tell them I said to fuck off.

And as for liar, yes that fucker lies, either that or he is delusional, do I need to grab the podcast from last year with him talking about the 'huge', 'mind blowing news' that was going to shock the community and how the final build was going to be way different to what we saw at gamescom (after orginally saying we were going to be blown away at gamescom and he fucked up on that promise too).

Any more fucking talk about this shit site, and i go and get that fucking podcast and put it up here so people can see how fucking stupid this cretin is.

Its a stupid site for little kids, see how you come on here and challenge my point, you think you could give adam a run for his money without that wankbag threatening to ban you?

Please.

So personally, i couldnt give a posh wank for your concerns, however, as a member on this forum, you have the right to come back at me with the same, you have the right to be negative about PES and you have the right to be positive about pes, you dont have that right (or certainly not to this degree) on wenb.

First of all let's try to have a conversation without all the swearing, secondly I was just concerned about your WENB hatred initially, now its highly disturbing. Do you really think Adam cares whether you like WENB (or 'stupid site for little kids') or not? Do you really think he cares whether you like him, or the people that frequent the forum? The fact of the matter is that he's made mistakes in the past (intentionally or unintentionally is entirely down to personal opinion, though I'd go for the latter) but both he and WENB are taking strides to amend them and the way they approach news and releases. They way they've approached PES2011 is evident of that.

What you seem to forget is fan-sites wouldn't exist unless the founders weren't fans of the series they were promoting and Adam is most definitely a fan of PES, does that mean he's not allowed to be optimistic about the series? As I mentioned before WENB is the last place I can name where positivity and constructiveness outweighs overwhelming negativity and like-minded people appreciate a place where the atmosphere suits their discussion. Adam can be militant but, after seeing what a farce Evo-Web has become in recent times, its warranted to maintain a pleasant atmosphere and in my experience on that site I've never had a serious issue with the way the forum is moderated.

You wanna know what I do with unreliable sources or things I generally don't like? I ignore them. Manchester Evening News is a shite United discussion board, so I avoid it. TalkSport with Stan 'Doggy McDogger' Collymore is a shit radio station, so I avoid it. Goal.com is a shite source full of wild speculation and bias reporters, so I avoid it. Bitching about it, insulting the moderators and generally getting all emotional about it isn't gonna solve anything and its not gonna do you any good.
 

kiwanis

Registered User
Jess

Why not go back to your creepy cult over at WENB and allow a real, democratic and honest forum to be free from your hype and BS. Obviously free expression is something Adam and his cult followers find very troublesome.
 

Jess C

Registered User
I can have an impartial debate about PES but if you're gonna be a dick about be empathizing with Adam I might as well go elsewhere.
 

kiwanis

Registered User
Jess - honestly mate do you think on WENB there is open and honest debate? Like the PES community is SERIOUSLY DIVIDED but there's no hint of that at Adam's place.
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
First of all let's try to have a conversation without all the swearing, secondly I was just concerned about your WENB hatred initially, now its highly disturbing. Do you really think Adam cares whether you like WENB (or 'stupid site for little kids') or not? Do you really think he cares whether you like him, or the people that frequent the forum? The fact of the matter is that he's made mistakes in the past (intentionally or unintentionally is entirely down to personal opinion, though I'd go for the latter) but both he and WENB are taking strides to amend them and the way they approach news and releases. They way they've approached PES2011 is evident of that.

What you seem to forget is fan-sites wouldn't exist unless the founders weren't fans of the series they were promoting and Adam is most definitely a fan of PES, does that mean he's not allowed to be optimistic about the series? As I mentioned before WENB is the last place I can name where positivity and constructiveness outweighs overwhelming negativity and like-minded people appreciate a place where the atmosphere suits their discussion. Adam can be militant but, after seeing what a farce Evo-Web has become in recent times, its warranted to maintain a pleasant atmosphere and in my experience on that site I've never had a serious issue with the way the forum is moderated.

You wanna know what I do with unreliable sources or things I generally don't like? I ignore them. Manchester Evening News is a shite United discussion board, so I avoid it. TalkSport with Stan 'Doggy McDogger' Collymore is a shit radio station, so I avoid it. Goal.com is a shite source full of wild speculation and bias reporters, so I avoid it. Bitching about it, insulting the moderators and generally getting all emotional about it isn't gonna solve anything and its not gonna do you any good.

Fucking yawn, what the fuck has this gotta do with Adam banning people who disagree with the agenda of his forum. Whats the point in having a forum if people are only allowed to debate along a certain line? I'm a fan of the series, so are others, but we dont all suck each other cocks and only talk about the positive, when we have just seen the shittest 3 pes's of all time released one after another, when most of the hardcore now play fifa (which was unthinkable back in 06/07).

Its pointless, wenb is is all about adam's ego, he genuinley thinks he is the voice of the pes community and spends half his time trying to get into konami's pants, he just wants to lie in bed with konami to fuel his own self importance which is why he is shit scared of offending or challenging them in any way. And let me be the first to tell you something, that prick doesnt speak for me and I know there are others he doesnt speak for on here.

And all this shit about "if you dont like it, avoid it"

Im not even a member on that peice of shit, yet using the freedom of speech i hope this forum will give me, I am giving my opinion on this bloke and his site, which most people on any forum would be entitled to do, unless they were a member of WENB.
 

The Liverpool Way

Registered User
This time last year Tech_Skill was swearing. Now he's swearing and this time next year he'll be swearing. It makes him unique, but fucking anoyying.

Anyway, after reading through the PES 2011 Press Release I was quite excited. If they can implement what is in the press release then guys we are gonna have one awesome game.

I always get hyped for PES games. Not this year though, Konami have let me down way to often. This year i'm not expecting much, but hopefully Konami can prove me wrong! ;)
 

Jess C

Registered User
Jess - honestly mate do you think on WENB there is open and honest debate? Like the PES community is SERIOUSLY DIVIDED but there's no hint of that at Adam's place.

Like I said, WENB is geared towards positivity and constructiveness. Its for people who still love the series, most likely because they believe it offers them an experience that FIFA lacks. Its always gonna be more positive.

Fucking yawn, what the fuck has this gotta do with Adam banning people who disagree with the agenda of his forum. Whats the point in having a forum if people are only allowed to debate along a certain line? I'm a fan of the series, so are others, but we dont all suck each other cocks and only talk about the positive, when we have just seen the shittest 3 pes's of all time released one after another, when most of the hardcore now play fifa (which was unthinkable back in 06/07).

Its pointless, wenb is is all about adam's ego, he genuinley thinks he is the voice of the pes community and spends half his time trying to get into konami's pants, he just wants to lie in bed with konami to fuel his own self importance which is why he is shit scared of offending or challenging them in any way. And let me be the first to tell you something, that prick doesnt speak for me and I know there are others he doesnt speak for on here.

And all this shit about "if you dont like it, avoid it"

Im not even a member on that peice of shit, yet using the freedom of speech i hope this forum will give me, I am giving my opinion on this bloke and his site, which most people on any forum would be entitled to do, unless they were a member of WENB.

How is he sucking up to Konami when he's openly criticized their marketing strategy, their trailers, their approach to fan involvement in the series as well as core aspects of the games themselves? Adam isn't the voice of the PES community, he doesn't think he's the voice of the PES community, but he is the voice of the WENB community and I don't know where you get the impression that you're restricted to debating amongst a certain line. If you were to go on the WENB forums now you'd find plenty of people who criticize the past games and Konami themselves but do so in a constructive manner, i.e. respectful, which, judging by the intense level of aggression you put in any of your WENB posts, was probably non-existent if or when you last posted on that website.

You're right, everyone on this forum does have freedom of speech and are entitled to their opinions, but everyone also has a choice on when and where they exercise that freedom. If you don't like Adam or his website then just leave it alone, ignore WENB and focus on PESGaming. If you think the members of their forum are delusional then they should be beneath you constantly commenting on them.

Jess

Why not go back to your creepy cult over at WENB and allow a real, democratic and honest forum to be free from your hype and BS. Obviously free expression is something Adam and his cult followers find very troublesome.

And empathy is something your pretentious little mind has trouble comprehending. It's understanding another person's viewpoint. Just because I defend WENB from some overzealous criticism (some of it false) doesn't mean I'm a member of the website or I endorse them overhyping the recent releases, I mostly comment on Evo-Web. I just think its pointless to waste so much energy on something you clearly hate.
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
Like I said, WENB is geared towards positivity and constructiveness. Its for people who still love the series, most likely because they believe it offers them an experience that FIFA lacks. Its always gonna be more positive.



How is he sucking up to Konami when he's openly criticized their marketing strategy, their trailers, their approach to fan involvement in the series as well as core aspects of the games themselves? Adam isn't the voice of the PES community, he doesn't think he's the voice of the PES community, but he is the voice of the WENB community and I don't know where you get the impression that you're restricted to debating amongst a certain line. If you were to go on the WENB forums now you'd find plenty of people who criticize the past games and Konami themselves but do so in a constructive manner, i.e. respectful, which, judging by the intense level of aggression you put in any of your WENB posts, was probably non-existent if or when you last posted on that website.

You're right, everyone on this forum does have freedom of speech and are entitled to their opinions, but everyone also has a choice on when and where they exercise that freedom. If you don't like Adam or his website then just leave it alone, ignore WENB and focus on PESGaming. If you think the members of their forum are delusional then they should be beneath you constantly commenting on them.



And empathy is something your tiny mind has trouble comprehending. It's understanding another person's viewpoint. Just because I defend WENB from some overzealous criticism (some of it false) doesn't mean I'm a member of the website, I mostly comment on Evo-Web. I just think its pointless to waste so much energy on something you clearly hate.

Well fucking done gandi, your nobel peace prize is in the post. Now before i condemn you back to your life of chanting, yoga and tofu, please understand the following.

What is the point of a forum, where members are not allowed to debate along certain lines.

What is the point of a forum if the owner threatens you with a ban, when you disagree with him.

Oh and if you dont know where that impression comes from, flick through this thread and read the testimony of an individual who was banned for just that.

And from what i can see, after he's been shown to be wrong about pes (again) then he turns all reflective and starts talking as if the game was what he expected and how next year is the year etc.

If you want to see adam sucking up to konami, go no further than his shitty podcast which should be re- named, adam does jon murphy and the rest konami..........again.

Adam's podcasts pretty much boil down to...

"Woooow, jon murphy's balls are so big, man, i just wana shoot my load all over his bald head, as long as he lets me playtest pes a few days before everyone else so i can get the attention i want from my moronic diciples, then the king will really be coming back, ps, ive packed away my ps2 and sold it to cash converters to keep my shitty two bit website going, but i want you all to think its because the new pes is sooooo amazing, even though ive been saying that for the last 3 years"

Now.......

I'll critise wenb and adam when I feel like it, that might be the next post, might be in the next 5 mins, it might be next fucking tuesday you dont like it, go cry into your dickrag son, cos I couldnt give a rats ass toss.
 

Jess C

Registered User
I didn't say you couldn't criticize WENB, I just said I think its a pointless waste of energy. At the end of the day you can do what you want, thats all I'm gonna say on the matter. And why is there so much graphic homoeroticism in your posts?
 
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