Master League Training - Only people who know what they are talking about need apply.

[Ko_nami]

You're correct maznaz. I've tried the exact same thing. It doesn't make any difference whatsoever to complete a training exercise with every player more than once.

It is time-consuming but it is worth doing the training exercises.

 

[maznaz]

Thanks for confirming that mate.

 

[saigon1357]

How to get to 99s attributes to young players!

I am in the 2008 season. I had Cesc Fabregas at the beginning. Right now he has 99 in 7 areas (Freekick, shooting power, shooting accuracy, passing speed, passing accuracy, technique, offense) and 95s for most of the rest (except defense, balance in the mid 80, goalkeeping skill is 50... guess nothing I can do about it...hehehe...).

Now how can I do it?

I had Cesc took every freekick (even in your own area), every corner, every throw in. Ball touches Cesc feet at least 30 time a match, has at least 5 shots, dribble at least 5 times, passing at least 10 times succesfully, have 2-4 assists a game, score 1 goal every 3 matches. He won assist king 4 times (2 in league, 2 in cup). He was MVP for 3 times. If you want your player to develop the most, he should get at least 7 rating every time at the end of a match.
I start the game at 6 stars. But in the off season, I play all friendly games at 1 star (It is some sort of cheating, I know). At 1 star level, you should have no problem have any player score 5 goals or more, assits 5 times or more (Cesc had about 25-30 goals,30-35 assists in off season).And if you train him non stop (train him in all schedules (shooting, defend, fK, offense, long pass...), you end up having Cesc Fabregas like I describe above.
I play Winning Eleven 8 in PS2, but I don't know how to send image of Cesc to the web for you to see. It's amazing! (I will show you the image if you tell me how to)
I am developing Rachmane Barry right now. Get to two 99s after 1 season (no off season yet).
Another tip: don't chose player with long time to develope (such as Nedved, Maldini, Zidane...). It is too long to train them, and it seems impossible to get to 99s.
Select player with very short time to develop such as Cesc, Rachmane Barry, Vatez, Legear, Cardozo, Kaabi, Yamato (in the 2007 season)... and do like what I describe above.

Young players to avoid: Robinho (he's suck in the game), Suker, Mijatovic, Effenberg...basically classic players that have lousy attrib at the beginning and can still develop after 30 years of age.

Another tip: don't buy more than 2 young players at the same time because to fully develop, 1 young player needs to touch ball at least 20 times, score and assists a lot of goals, dribble a lot, take all FK,corners. If you have 2 young players at the same time, they get into each other ways. If you want to buy 2 young players, better buy 1 striker/or midfielder and 1 goalkeeper/or 1 defender. Don't buy 2 young strikers or 2 midfielders.

 

[natax81]

i used to train my ENTIRE squad for ALL my trainings... but after awhile, i start to get lazy coz its really very time consuming! after tat i only concentrate on the relevant players for training. However i still find tat it takes alot of time! so now i juz concentrate on some lousy players which i've... eg, Robinho... He's quite good now. He's my left winger... can cross, score and take on defenders! anyway it's really not important to have your entire squad with high stats... it juz takes away the challenge! Challenge yourself with a lesser team!

 

[Cellini]

The Developing Players thread prompted me to look at this for the best training and development.

Is it only off-season training that makes a significant difference? How much, if any, is made by training between games during the season?

Is it only appearances in games that will have an impact during the season?

 

[Ko_nami]

Er... this thread was talking about PES4.

The player development and training system is much simpler in PES5.

 

[Cellini]

I've just had a look and can't find a thread on the PES5 training/development.

How does it differ, I'm trying to figure out what the best routine is (is it all done in the off-season), does free training and other menu options have any impact during the season, or is it only appearances in games?

 

[Ko_nami]

I've just had a look and can't find a thread on the PES5 training/development.

How does it differ, I'm trying to figure out what the best routine is (is it all done in the off-season), does free training and other menu options have any impact during the season, or is it only appearances in games?

To be honest, I only use the "Auto Training" during the off-season in PES5.

I haven't tried the training areas such as "Defence" etc.

As far as I know, playing in the league games is where you can expect you're players to develop the quickest.

 

[Jolly Roger]

The training can work either by allowing the computer to decide on what aspects to work on or you can specifically target areas such as stamina etc by making the decision yourself. The benefit of playing pre season games is to get extra funds if you win or draw and, if you have signed new players, to get them on the pitch and work on their abilty to link together (the lines that appear when you press the circle button during the player select screen in set up) before the season starts. You will get minimal improvement from the players by playing a pre season game. The training mode provides much better improvement.
The graph shown is an indicationonly of how the player will improve over the comming years. It shows if he is a early or late developer. It also shows if he will have a lapse in form mid career etc. If you play the player consistently and well, he could well exceed the line on the graph. Obviously the opposite is also true

 

[Disco Pants]

'Most' of the young players start off with shite Stamina so to get this built up from the start is a huge bonus as they will then be able to play more games and for longer, during pre-season I always tend to train all my players on their stamina.

As for the thread starter:

I know exactly what you mean about the Graph that graph will be worked out on league games only and it is only a rough guide to how the player will turn out my forward Carmillo should have peaked at roughly late 80's yet he is currently on 94-95 overall simply cos he has played nearly all WEFA/D1 cup matches and has received high player ratings.

 

[ferdinand93]

when you don't play players, the players still improve a bit and the line thing on the graph stays level with the graph line. therefore, the graph line is how the player improves when you dont play him, that is why the players you always play end up being above the graph line.

 

[Ko_nami]

when you don't play players, the players still improve a bit and the line thing on the graph stays level with the graph line. therefore, the graph line is how the player improves when you dont play him, that is why the players you always play end up being above the graph line.

Yep, makes sense.

The line just shows how the player will develop with consistent 5.5 performances (i.e. his potential). Performances above 5.5 will result in the player's line starting to go above his potential.

 

[RedBlooded]

I'm not sure, after a few years of not playing most players don't fulfil their development curves...

 

[Ko_nami]

I'm not sure, after a few years of not playing most players don't fulfil their development curves...

That's not necessarily true.

If you leave a player on the bench, their stats will still go up regardless and still follow their potential line.

Try it if you don't believe me.