My PES12 Demo 1 Impressions.

[bunnywhi7e]

Well guys, I've finally managed to get Euro PSN (residing in US) and download PEs12 DEMO 1.
After booting up the demo, and playing a few matches I can say this:

Its EASILY, WITHOUT A DOUBT, one of the best PES Konami ever released. Many will probably disagree with me on this statement but for me its the FIRST PES that gave me a WOW, SHOCKING feeling only after one match.

The settings I used:

Cursor Assistance: Semi
Passing Assistance: One Bar
Other PLAYER assistance all 3 OFF and tackle set on HARD.
Game speed is where it gets tricky. IMO 0 is the best, gives you most realistic gameplay. -1 I find too slow, +1 becomes PES11 (ping-pong).
While I do like wide camera, pitchsize suits this game the most with 0 game speed settings.

What can I say about this game, or should I say DEMO!!!! not even a full finished game and its playing like this???? Boy, its going to be a long fall, winter heck even spring and summer lol.

- Passing is superb, spot on
- Ball physics are UNREAL, life like (HOW DID KONAMI ACHIEVE THIS IS BEYOND ME)
- For me SHOOTING is almost like life-like, very realistic (no clue why certain people complain). You can score a long range screamer which is very realistic. Watching real tv matches highlights, is what kind of beautiful long range killers you can score.

- pitch size is SPOT ON with incredible grass detal, beautiful vivid lighting.
- Someone mentioned white nets when playing night matches? Never got a white net. Played all matches @ SAN SIRO and they are grey (no biggie but would like white better)
- Now, the AI in this game is PROBABLY, MOST LIKELY the best AI/CPU in any sports game EVER CREATED BOTTOM LINE.
Every single match I played on Professional level the AI plays like real human being, very good, unpredictable, good realistic buildup and the BEST PART, the AI makes mistakes like real player would normally make. Poor clearance for example, had a few auto goals with CPU keeper accidentaly kicking the ball in his own net....fucking brilliant.

- taking ball is now harder than ever mostly due to AI playing like super human. Also getting the ball from CPU is so godamn realistic. PES11 and FIFA 11 has such a poor option when taking the ball from.opposing player. All you practically have to do is walk into a player and the ball is yours ESPECIALLY in FIFA11 and even FIFA12. To me this is very unrealistic and now finally, PES12 has nailed this spot on perfect that it gives me an awesome feeling when I take the ball away from CPU player. PURE GENIOUS.
- The ref's are very good FAIR, extremely unfair at times, biased, whatnot just like in real life. Simply amazing.
- scoring a goal gives you this unreal fucking feeling like your on the pitch yourseld and scored a goal in real life situation.

This demo is simply brilliant and I cannot imagine what a 2nd one will feel like especially the full game.

Not to disrespect FIFA and EA as they have been doing very good with recent releases but KONAMI have definitely takem the crown back. I will be getting Euro PES12 version to play you European folks, so add me . PSN: ZidanElite

I hope Amateur won't hijack my thread like he does everyone elses. Your negative comments are unwelcomed brah. I haven't posted here in a while mainly because a lot of FIFA FANS have took over the place it seems like. Funny how, guys @ EvoWeb think this game is very very good, yet here, its completely the opposite. What ever happened to PESInsight (( MISS THAT PLACE...quite frankly PESGaming has just lost tons of good PES/WE contributors/members whatever you want to call them.

 

[Sminky]

Well I wondered if and when you'd return. I thought the demo was absolute shite as it happens, fucking dribbling did my head in. Still, 2nd demo is out next week. So, every cloud. Etc. Silver Lining.

 

[mahanddeem]

shooting is awful in this demo...IMO it's too late for fixing many small details (leave alone ball physics)

 

[shaun7]

^Shooting is spot on. Seriously, learn to shoot first because if everything else is awful, shooting is NOT.

I would like to add that if this game makes STANDING TACKLES more responsive (the attacking side is way more responsive than the defensive side) and tone down the close control a bit, then it would be perfect.

The thing with this demo is that it makes me mad, but at the same time, I always think about the beautiful goals I have scored in it. So it has that feeling.

 

[techboy11]

I've been posting on here about my trying to conquer Napoli, my bogey team on here. Until a couple of days ago I had never won two games in a row on Top Player, as any team versus Napoli. My recent posts highlighted how I won my first game 2-0 and the next game 3-0, firstly with Man Utd and then Milan.

I have won a third consecutive game against Napoli, 3-1, and honestly feel like I've achieved something massive. It has taken me weeks to get to this point, of constant demo playing, constant slammings by the CPU, constant Lavezzi hat-tricks etc etc. They punished me for long periods, but now the worm has turned.

I've just finished the last game I mentioned, the 3-1 as Man Utd v Napoli, and I must say the game was a total joy from start to finish. They took the lead after some sustained pressure by me, but then the fightback commenced. First a wonderful goal from a rebound from a corner, then some brilliant counter attack play down the left flank involving Valencia, Giggs and Rooney. And then some wonderful hold up play after a lovely move down the right flank by Rooney, to slow the pace down and lay off Valencia for another neat finish.

Apart from the 'keepers being slightly dodgy, THIS GAME IS A TOTAL JOY.

I have put hours into perfecting my defence to suit me. It may not work all the time, but I have found a way. I hardly ever tackle, in fact I rely almost totally on just accurate positioning. This may seem easy, but believe me it isn't. I feel this game truly rewards the way I try and play a football game. I try and replicate the real game in terms of no pressure but player movement. Strikers cutting down angles, midfielders pressuring in a four yard radius but not jumping in, and defenders jockeying to the outside all the time. You simply have to concentrate on positioning on every CPU attack. Trying to force the issue will just see your team lose shape and strikers dance through you. At this early stage, I'm thrilled. I wasn't at first, I thought it was crap I must confess. But I'm a being of stubborn nature and my time invested in it has paid off. I feel it's the closest thing to the real game, in terms of CPU attacking AI and most importantly the DEFENSIVE SYSTEM. Did you watch any game yesterday on Sky? How many actual tackles were there? Not many. Modern day defence is ALL about positioning and not tackling which I feel this game replicates brilliantly.

I finally have an appreciation that you can't just tackle Nani, can't just hack Giggs. Here's awaiting the second demo!

 

[Rasmus]

The settings I used:

Cursor Assistance: Semi
Passing Assistance: One Bar
Other PLAYER assistance all 3 OFF and tackle set on HARD.
Game speed is where it gets tricky. IMO 0 is the best, gives you most realistic gameplay. -1 I find too slow, +1 becomes PES11 (ping-pong).
While I do like wide camera, pitchsize suits this game the most with 0 game speed settings.

I think i have to try adjusting these factors in the final game. Could change my experience of the game. Played around 50 games of the demo, and i thought it was kind of boring.

 

[metsuri69]

Ok this post just settled me to download the 1st demo, before the second demo comes in case they mess this up