Need your advice for a tournament with friends
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paultrickle
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1. why don't you edit the stats?
2. your friend could be a member reading this.
3. try real madrid.
1-Edit the stats of Barcelona's players?? Can I do that?
2-He is not a member and he does not write/read in English
3-Why Real Madrid?
Don't edit stats, that's cheating...
i guess so. i don't just edit my team's stats though. edit every team in premier league and la liga, and some important teams.
this site is editing stats.
http://www.pesstatsdatabase.com/viewforum.php?f=7
Oh I ment if he was to edit only the team he usses then it would be cheating.
paultrickle
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Tomorrow is D day. I do not want to cheat at all. I want to play fair and win with all the suggestions and help that all of you provided!!
I will keep you posted!!!!!
Pablo
Charlie
Registered User
Rooney is shockingly over-rated in this game. But anyway, use this formation with Barca and keep the passing clean and crisp and dont 'over-dribble' with the one-two feature with Messi/Henry/Eto'o making the forward run.
------------------------Valdes---------------------
---------------Puyol--------------Milito------------
---Alves-----------------------------------Abidal---
----------------------------------------------------
-------------------------Hleb-----------------------
-----------Xavi---------------------Iniesta----------
----------------------------------------------------
-Messi---------------------------------------Henry-
-------------------------Eto'o----------------------
You might think it looks the same but Ive tweaked the positions, with the likes of Alves and Abidal moved up the pitch twice, Hleb bang in the middle with Xavi and Iniesta positioned level with each other but just outside the semi circle. Then you drop Messi and Henry as far back as possible while still keeping them as an SS and LWF and then pushing them right out to the touchline, then you just drag Etoo back 3 times and your set.
Always let Henry take the free kicks, Xavi the corners and make Puyol go up for the corners. If you find a few yards of space with Alves in shooting distance then have a crack, preferrably after your first touch as he can really bang it.
Im undefeated with the formation, and also keep positive and dont let your mate get to you at any stage.
paultrickle
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Good luck!
paultrickle
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Finally!! Last night I played the tournament with 3 friends
Friend #1 played Manchester
Friend #2 played AC Milan
Friend #3 played Inter Milan
I played Barcelona with all the input, guidance and strategies that you helped me
I won 6 matches out of 10. I defeated AC Milan and Inter de Milan with no problem. The issue continues to be Manchester.
I played much better against Manchester United with all your feedback and recommendations. Thanks a lot!!!
Here are the issues that I need to improve
1-How to control Park Ji Sung in the midfield. He creates chaos when having the ball in a counter attack
2-With the new formations and strategies, Tevez and Ronaldo are not an issue any more
3-The nightmare #1: Rooney.... I have no clue on how to mark Rooney with Puyol, Marquez, etc, etc
4-The nightmare #2: Van der Saar. This GK is invincible... I shot from many places and he saved many scores......
This is my feedback and what happened last nite and wanted to share with all of you. I am playing much better with Barcelona and all the help that you gave me.
Cheers
Paul
Friend #1 played Manchester
Friend #2 played AC Milan
Friend #3 played Inter Milan
I played Barcelona with all the input, guidance and strategies that you helped me
I won 6 matches out of 10. I defeated AC Milan and Inter de Milan with no problem. The issue continues to be Manchester.
I played much better against Manchester United with all your feedback and recommendations. Thanks a lot!!!
Here are the issues that I need to improve
1-How to control Park Ji Sung in the midfield. He creates chaos when having the ball in a counter attack
2-With the new formations and strategies, Tevez and Ronaldo are not an issue any more
3-The nightmare #1: Rooney.... I have no clue on how to mark Rooney with Puyol, Marquez, etc, etc
4-The nightmare #2: Van der Saar. This GK is invincible... I shot from many places and he saved many scores......
This is my feedback and what happened last nite and wanted to share with all of you. I am playing much better with Barcelona and all the help that you gave me.
Cheers
Paul
1. park is overrated in the game. where does he play?
2. problem solved ^_^
3. try man marking him.
4. umm...he is not invincible. maybe turn inside with messi and henry and run on the edge of the area then near the semi circle shoot. i always score that way.
abbafather
Registered User
try changing you rb and lb to cb that way you will always have four defenders that he has to get past i find it works well
hehe interesting! I felt the same about Man U while playing vs a friend but I was with Juventus and still managed to win. Speed and body are really good at Man U and I really felt it was unfair!
But with Barcelone, I almost never loose. I played Barca so much... and I never had any problem vs Man U or any team my friends pick up.
I mostly play Barca 4-3-3
--------------------Valdez-----------------------
-------------------------------------------------
------|------Puyol----------Milito----------------
----Alves----------------------------Abidal-------
------|------------------------------------------
----------------------|-------------------------
---------------|-----Toure------------------------
--------------Xavi------------|-------------------
---------------|-----------Iniesta----------------
------Messi-------------------|------------------
--------|\-------------|------------Henry--------
---------------------Eto'o-----------/|----------
-----------------------|-------------------------
I dunno the positions shortings in english because I use french ^^ but :
puyol/milito: DC - central defender
Alvers/abidal: AR - normal lateral def ( I mean not wings def )
Toure: MDF - defensive mid
Xavi : MC - central mid
Iniesta : MO - offensive mid
Messi : SA - second attacker
Henry : ATTg - left attacker
Eto'o : AV -attacker
the "|", "\", "/" things are the direction of offensive attitude.
all heavy defending except etoo and messi
I play 4 tactics :
1 : off-side (very useful on free kicks)
2 : counter-attack
3 : "coller l'adversaire" - means go near the opposent, kind of pressing
4 : "changer côté" - means switch sides, wings attacker
I always put the strategy on manual so I can swith as I want and mostly select 1 level up in the offensive way while playing ( L2-R1 or something if you see)
I always select puyol, milito to support attack on corners/freekicks. they are very usefull on corners when shooting at 1st, +- mid range
All this to say, it works pretty well ^^ the 3 strikers are amazing fast and accurate and Barca is a scoring machine.
You mentionned Van der sar saving a lot, try maybe shooting with crossin, maybe Vds stops it and you can get a rebund from the opposit. Dunno how to explain this:
-----------Vds--------
-----------------------
----|/----defense---------
henry -------------- messi
messi shoots crossing, vds stops, ball can go in herny'direction, henry get the rebound, defense is stuck, mostly useless. You see the idea? It can work from far shoots. If you can't finish it in 1st intention it could be useful. Iniesta, xavi often get there to make the rebound as well.
How do you play defensively? do you attack the opponent and get passed ? or do you try to slow him down?
It's good to play defensively by running in direction of your goal it avoids stupid defensive situation somtimes.
Also you could use square to make your team press the opposent and controll an other player running to you goal in case one of you defenders runs out of his position. check radar a lot...
Also do you use tackling? I use it a lot and I'm pretty good at it. Using tackling, even fautive if necessary, sometimes it's needed when passed.
You can even put an opposent down after he passes the ball, it's one less for them
What I mean is that you could try to defend more on the position than regarding the ball. players run fast out of their position, using pressing and positioning the one you control may help you to make interceptions, close space in your defense, ...
You say you have 60% possession, many offensives shoots but maybe you don't have effencient opportunities. I mean if he defends a lot and low, there is no space, many players, difficult to get a solid opportunity.
Maybe try play backwards, passing trought defenders, letting Man U team come get the ball and creating the space from there.
Because the body of Man U is very good, at least I feel so! So avoid contacts, use passing and speed to create space instead of getting stuck on their defense and exposed to a counter.
Offensively, One-two passing, using R2 to ask the ball, even faking... sometimes it takes a defender to cover and you get space.
Dunno if it helped, but barca is just so good!! really a team I feel very well, enjoy a lot and I'm miles away better with barca than handling any other team. No team is a problem vs barca. I think it depends on how you understand the moves of you team, you've enought amazing players to make the difference whatever the team you play against.
The only stats I tweaked if the Gk.(but for Man U as well, I mean all GK) decent passing, condition, mental, teamspirit,shooting,... yes they can shoot a ball right lol! they also can run, it seems konami didn't know...
And then you can also make a better use of you GK, I mean he can start faster handpass, he can shoot accurate from far, he can goes out fast with decent acceleration. It's something I miss with defauts stats and it's part of my game, could be interesting to try for you maybe.
Cheers, sorry for the big explanations, barca fanboy :lol:
But with Barcelone, I almost never loose. I played Barca so much... and I never had any problem vs Man U or any team my friends pick up.
I mostly play Barca 4-3-3
--------------------Valdez-----------------------
-------------------------------------------------
------|------Puyol----------Milito----------------
----Alves----------------------------Abidal-------
------|------------------------------------------
----------------------|-------------------------
---------------|-----Toure------------------------
--------------Xavi------------|-------------------
---------------|-----------Iniesta----------------
------Messi-------------------|------------------
--------|\-------------|------------Henry--------
---------------------Eto'o-----------/|----------
-----------------------|-------------------------
I dunno the positions shortings in english because I use french ^^ but :
puyol/milito: DC - central defender
Alvers/abidal: AR - normal lateral def ( I mean not wings def )
Toure: MDF - defensive mid
Xavi : MC - central mid
Iniesta : MO - offensive mid
Messi : SA - second attacker
Henry : ATTg - left attacker
Eto'o : AV -attacker
the "|", "\", "/" things are the direction of offensive attitude.
all heavy defending except etoo and messi
I play 4 tactics :
1 : off-side (very useful on free kicks)
2 : counter-attack
3 : "coller l'adversaire" - means go near the opposent, kind of pressing
4 : "changer côté" - means switch sides, wings attacker
I always put the strategy on manual so I can swith as I want and mostly select 1 level up in the offensive way while playing ( L2-R1 or something if you see)
I always select puyol, milito to support attack on corners/freekicks. they are very usefull on corners when shooting at 1st, +- mid range
All this to say, it works pretty well ^^ the 3 strikers are amazing fast and accurate and Barca is a scoring machine.
You mentionned Van der sar saving a lot, try maybe shooting with crossin, maybe Vds stops it and you can get a rebund from the opposit. Dunno how to explain this:
-----------Vds--------
-----------------------
----|/----defense---------
henry -------------- messi
messi shoots crossing, vds stops, ball can go in herny'direction, henry get the rebound, defense is stuck, mostly useless. You see the idea? It can work from far shoots. If you can't finish it in 1st intention it could be useful. Iniesta, xavi often get there to make the rebound as well.
How do you play defensively? do you attack the opponent and get passed ? or do you try to slow him down?
It's good to play defensively by running in direction of your goal it avoids stupid defensive situation somtimes.
Also you could use square to make your team press the opposent and controll an other player running to you goal in case one of you defenders runs out of his position. check radar a lot...
Also do you use tackling? I use it a lot and I'm pretty good at it. Using tackling, even fautive if necessary, sometimes it's needed when passed.
You can even put an opposent down after he passes the ball, it's one less for them
What I mean is that you could try to defend more on the position than regarding the ball. players run fast out of their position, using pressing and positioning the one you control may help you to make interceptions, close space in your defense, ...
You say you have 60% possession, many offensives shoots but maybe you don't have effencient opportunities. I mean if he defends a lot and low, there is no space, many players, difficult to get a solid opportunity.
Maybe try play backwards, passing trought defenders, letting Man U team come get the ball and creating the space from there.
Because the body of Man U is very good, at least I feel so! So avoid contacts, use passing and speed to create space instead of getting stuck on their defense and exposed to a counter.
Offensively, One-two passing, using R2 to ask the ball, even faking... sometimes it takes a defender to cover and you get space.
Dunno if it helped, but barca is just so good!! really a team I feel very well, enjoy a lot and I'm miles away better with barca than handling any other team. No team is a problem vs barca. I think it depends on how you understand the moves of you team, you've enought amazing players to make the difference whatever the team you play against.
The only stats I tweaked if the Gk.(but for Man U as well, I mean all GK) decent passing, condition, mental, teamspirit,shooting,... yes they can shoot a ball right lol! they also can run, it seems konami didn't know...
And then you can also make a better use of you GK, I mean he can start faster handpass, he can shoot accurate from far, he can goes out fast with decent acceleration. It's something I miss with defauts stats and it's part of my game, could be interesting to try for you maybe.
Cheers, sorry for the big explanations, barca fanboy :lol:
paultrickle
Registered User
paultrickle
Registered User
hehe interesting! I felt the same about Man U while playing vs a friend but I was with Juventus and still managed to win. Speed and body are really good at Man U and I really felt it was unfair!
But with Barcelone, I almost never loose. I played Barca so much... and I never had any problem vs Man U or any team my friends pick up.
I mostly play Barca 4-3-3
--------------------Valdez-----------------------
-------------------------------------------------
------|------Puyol----------Milito----------------
----Alves----------------------------Abidal-------
------|------------------------------------------
----------------------|-------------------------
---------------|-----Toure------------------------
--------------Xavi------------|-------------------
---------------|-----------Iniesta----------------
------Messi-------------------|------------------
--------|\-------------|------------Henry--------
---------------------Eto'o-----------/|----------
-----------------------|-------------------------
I dunno the positions shortings in english because I use french ^^ but :
puyol/milito: DC - central defender
Alvers/abidal: AR - normal lateral def ( I mean not wings def )
Toure: MDF - defensive mid
Xavi : MC - central mid
Iniesta : MO - offensive mid
Messi : SA - second attacker
Henry : ATTg - left attacker
Eto'o : AV -attacker
the "|", "\", "/" things are the direction of offensive attitude.
all heavy defending except etoo and messi
I play 4 tactics :
1 : off-side (very useful on free kicks)
2 : counter-attack
3 : "coller l'adversaire" - means go near the opposent, kind of pressing
4 : "changer côté" - means switch sides, wings attacker
I always put the strategy on manual so I can swith as I want and mostly select 1 level up in the offensive way while playing ( L2-R1 or something if you see)
I always select puyol, milito to support attack on corners/freekicks. they are very usefull on corners when shooting at 1st, +- mid range
All this to say, it works pretty well ^^ the 3 strikers are amazing fast and accurate and Barca is a scoring machine.
You mentionned Van der sar saving a lot, try maybe shooting with crossin, maybe Vds stops it and you can get a rebund from the opposit. Dunno how to explain this:
-----------Vds--------
-----------------------
----|/----defense---------
henry -------------- messi
messi shoots crossing, vds stops, ball can go in herny'direction, henry get the rebound, defense is stuck, mostly useless. You see the idea? It can work from far shoots. If you can't finish it in 1st intention it could be useful. Iniesta, xavi often get there to make the rebound as well.
How do you play defensively? do you attack the opponent and get passed ? or do you try to slow him down?
It's good to play defensively by running in direction of your goal it avoids stupid defensive situation somtimes.
Also you could use square to make your team press the opposent and controll an other player running to you goal in case one of you defenders runs out of his position. check radar a lot...
Also do you use tackling? I use it a lot and I'm pretty good at it. Using tackling, even fautive if necessary, sometimes it's needed when passed.
You can even put an opposent down after he passes the ball, it's one less for them
What I mean is that you could try to defend more on the position than regarding the ball. players run fast out of their position, using pressing and positioning the one you control may help you to make interceptions, close space in your defense, ...
You say you have 60% possession, many offensives shoots but maybe you don't have effencient opportunities. I mean if he defends a lot and low, there is no space, many players, difficult to get a solid opportunity.
Maybe try play backwards, passing trought defenders, letting Man U team come get the ball and creating the space from there.
Because the body of Man U is very good, at least I feel so! So avoid contacts, use passing and speed to create space instead of getting stuck on their defense and exposed to a counter.
Offensively, One-two passing, using R2 to ask the ball, even faking... sometimes it takes a defender to cover and you get space.
Dunno if it helped, but barca is just so good!! really a team I feel very well, enjoy a lot and I'm miles away better with barca than handling any other team. No team is a problem vs barca. I think it depends on how you understand the moves of you team, you've enought amazing players to make the difference whatever the team you play against.
The only stats I tweaked if the Gk.(but for Man U as well, I mean all GK) decent passing, condition, mental, teamspirit,shooting,... yes they can shoot a ball right lol! they also can run, it seems konami didn't know...
And then you can also make a better use of you GK, I mean he can start faster handpass, he can shoot accurate from far, he can goes out fast with decent acceleration. It's something I miss with defauts stats and it's part of my game, could be interesting to try for you maybe.
Cheers, sorry for the big explanations, barca fanboy :lol:
Rouche: Finally I find someone that suffered the same against Manchester United and a friend...
My gamestyle is pressing from the beginning trying to dominate the mid field, pass the ball, attack from the sides and send balls to headers like Henry and Etoo. I also like attacking from the midfield cutting with Messig and dribbling with Messi and Henry.
I try to change my attack plan in every play.
I score many goals and also I receive many goals. My tactic: score 1 more goal than my friend.
With Manchester United I feel like someone is cheating.. the speed of Park, Rooney, Tevez and Ronaldo is amazing and overated.
I have one question for you, my friend: How do you avoid the counter attacks with the strategy and formation that you suggest? (4-3-3)
Thanks in advance and look forward to listening from you
barca is faster than man u.... IMO
my tip to stop the counter attack is this... regroup your team before they counter attack you, play hard, what's the O button for? be4 tevez pass through ball to rooney, shot him down.... or shot rooney down.... ref blows a whistle, and there you go, you have 11 men behind ball AGAIN
my tip to stop the counter attack is this... regroup your team before they counter attack you, play hard, what's the O button for? be4 tevez pass through ball to rooney, shot him down.... or shot rooney down.... ref blows a whistle, and there you go, you have 11 men behind ball AGAIN
riverplatelv
Registered User
your friend must suck at the game or does not know how to dribble very well. Say you picked a team like Japan and ur opponent is Brazil. Brazil definitely looks like the favorite and should win by at least 1 goal. Now, the players within the game are better. the rest remains to the human to put players like robinho, kaka and ronaldinho to a good use. It is also very important to know where to place each player. Say if you play Robinho too up front with Adriano, chances are robinho wont get many balls as if he played on the WF or LW. Take a good look at the running arrows too, this way you know from memory where all your players are running to.
zizou88
Registered User
stoping rooney etc. from scoring is always a 50/50. You can defend all day but rooney's rating is so high that if he gets a half ass chance he will somehow put it through. THerefore, man marking isn't full proof. You already half a great attacking team, so let your D sit as far back (in team tactics, Defensive line holds deep in front of goal) Hleb is a good option for D mid, he is pretty quick, leave him back there. If you are skill you can score with messi, eto'o and henry.
You might also want to make sure you don't defend counter-attacks too abruptly. Remember, if they have advantage in number or speed, your priority is defending the goal, not stealing the ball. Use the pressure button to get a player on the ball and use R2 to control the last man back. Track back and position your player in between the ball and the goal. hopefully it will stall some time to let you regroup, OR you can actually block the shot.
You might also want to make sure you don't defend counter-attacks too abruptly. Remember, if they have advantage in number or speed, your priority is defending the goal, not stealing the ball. Use the pressure button to get a player on the ball and use R2 to control the last man back. Track back and position your player in between the ball and the goal. hopefully it will stall some time to let you regroup, OR you can actually block the shot.
paultrickle
Registered User
barca is faster than man u.... IMO
my tip to stop the counter attack is this... regroup your team before they counter attack you, play hard, what's the O button for? be4 tevez pass through ball to rooney, shot him down.... or shot rooney down.... ref blows a whistle, and there you go, you have 11 men behind ball AGAIN
Yes, but I will have a bunch of players with yellow cards in no time.....