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PES 2011 Stats

fick

Registered User
:lol2: now go away already. Apparently you don't even understand the meaning of the word last. I'm not even going to bother reading that post.

And apparently you don't understand the meaning of one and only warning.

Have a day off to consider your ineptitude.
 

tinsma_7

Registered User
Any chance of some from germany national team?

aogo, badstuber,marin, muller & khedira

and any other that's different from pes2010 (if the same don't bother)

espcially badstuber and aogo that AREN'T in pes2010

cheers
 

MysteryMan

Registered User
I don't really know what your argument is Storm , but Amateur is right about one thing , when Xavi has the ball its almost impossible to take it away from him, but in PES that seems to be too easy in the sense that someone with a big body balance can simply overpower him to the ball easly since xavi is slow and he can catch him quite fast, so theres some stat missing here because thats very unrealistic.
 

Stormrider

Registered User
I don't really know what your argument is Storm , but Amateur is right about one thing , when Xavi has the ball its almost impossible to take it away from him, but in PES that seems to be too easy in the sense that someone with a big body balance can simply overpower him to the ball easly since xavi is slow and he can catch him quite fast, so theres some stat missing here because thats very unrealistic.

I already mentioned the flaw in Pes 2010 that allows weak and slow players like Xavi to lose the ball far too easily to the bigger fellows without any help from the ref whatsoever and I completely agree with you it's very unrealistic. Giving him 99 is not going to mask that flaw because he'll still be bulldozed over the moment anyone comes within breathing distance of him. In Pes 2010 he has 95 dribbling which is a very high rating, making him 1 of the best in game but because of a gameplay flaw, if the player is neither fast nor strong, dribbling accuracy doesn't mean much. Remember that Drogba is also incredibly hard to take the ball from but that doesn't mean we need to suddenly give him a high dribble rating. When it comes to ball possession, dribble accuracy alone just doesn't paint the whole picture.

But if you watch some of the Pes 2011 gamescon footage I think you'll find that things seem much better this time around and I have a suspicion that in the right hands Xavi will be 1 of the best at holding the ball without having to resort to giving him 99 dribble accuracy.

You do know these stats are from the beta and are the same as the latest PES 2010 update (which means they have nothing to do with 2011's real stats)?

I'm using the latest Pes update (1.07) and the stats are not the same. Ronaldinho is a lot better in that image and David Villa is a lot better in Pes 2010 (95 attack and 95 shot accuracy vs 92 and 90 in that image). Let's hope those stats are from before the world cup and things will look better in the final game but judging from Konami's track record in the stats department I'm not very optimistic.
 

Blaz00r

Registered User
I see...Well, I compared Giovinco and some other Juve players and they all were the same as 2010's 1.07, I guess they changed some players, but I'm pretty sure these won't be 2011 stats...
 

Amateur

Registered User
I already mentioned the flaw in Pes 2010 that allows weak and slow players like Xavi to lose the ball far too easily to the bigger fellows without any help from the ref whatsoever and I completely agree with you it's very unrealistic. Giving him 99 is not going to mask that flaw because he'll still be bulldozed over the moment anyone comes within breathing distance of him. In Pes 2010 he has 95 dribbling which ,is a very high rating, making him 1 of the best in game but because of a gameplay flaw, if the player is neither fast nor strong, dribbling accuracy doesn't mean much. Remember that Drogba is also incredibly hard to take the ball from but that doesn't mean we need to suddenly give him a high dribble rating. When it comes to ball possession, dribble accuracy alone just doesn't paint the whole picture.

But if you watch some of the Pes 2011 gamescon footage I think you'll find that things seem much better this time around and I have a suspicion that in the right hands Xavi will be 1 of the best at holding the ball without having to resort to giving him 99 dribble accuracy.

I agree with that,

I'm just playing along with the limitations of the game, and maxing his dribbling accuracy to 99 whilst dropping his acceleration to 60, in my opinion, make him feel more like the real Xavi.

That said, it is most certainly a gameplay flaw: the game really needs MANUAL SHIELDING and MANUAL DRIBBLING.

I never said that dribbling accuracy and acceleration is everything. In addition, be it fast or strong, small or slow, the flaw is very general because it is basically impossible to actually dribble with the ball; all we ever do in PES is run with the ball. Even when you have Leo Messi, it just doesn't feels like dribbling, it doesn't feels manual nor precise enough, it is impossible to actually dribble on the spot, it is too easy to run through everyone and score an easy goal.

As for PES 2011, I still have not seen anything that suggests that players like Xavi will be more useful in dribbling terms. The freedom when passing the ball will obviously make players like Xavi more useful, but I think that in terms of dribbling and shielding the ball, that slow dribblers like Xavi will not feel like themselves due to the flaw.

But hopefully, my impression is wrong.
 

tinsma_7

Registered User
can anyone post more stats :p??

totally agree, this is a thread about stats in pes2011 not the stats you think the players should have....

I for one only use stats from konami, not because i agree, but because it feels right to me.

i was looking foward to aogo and badstuber so i could make them in pes2010 until pes11 comes out...
 

zizou4ever

Registered User
Yes, but if I correctly recall, last year's demo stats were not representative of the final version's.

I believe the stats we have seen in beta MLO are outdated.
 

tinsma_7

Registered User
Yes, but if I correctly recall, last year's demo stats were not representative of the final version's.

I believe the stats we have seen in beta MLO are outdated.

i don't mind if this 2 players are outdated as they aren't in pes2010...

AOGO, BADSTUBER, please

by what i've read the top 2 left-backs in germany (that are german) (or so the WC10 comentators said so...)

maybe muller and khedira too, but i'd settle for the other 2
 

Brainoperation

Registered User
Müller
HS78/MS76/AMF77/OMF73 beide Seiten
80 Angriff
55 Verteidigung
78 Balance
85 Ausdauer
82 Schnelligkeit
81 Beschleunigung
85 Reaktionsvermögen
78 Beweglichkeit
81 Dribbelstärke
82 Dribbelgeschwindigkeit
79 Kurzpassgenauigkeit
82 Kurzpassgeschwindigkeit
75 Langpassgenauigkeit
77 Langpassgeschwindigkeit
83 Schussgenauigkeit
77 Schusskraft
84 Schusstechnik
70 Freistoßgenauigkeit
71 Effet
75 Kopfballgenauigkeit
78 Sprungkraft
82 Technik
78 Aggresivität
75 Zähigkeit (Mentalität)
50 Torwartfähigkeit
82 Teamwork-Stärke
6 Tagesform
5 Gen. Schw. Fuß
5 Häuf. Schw. Fuß
B Verletzanfälligkeit
P09 Rückpass P15 Freilaufen S01 Tor Durchbruch S15 Schultertäuschfähigkeit

Badstuber
IV71/LV68
63-76-82-77-72-67-75-71-74-65-75-80-84-85-64-83-64-75-84-75-79-73-65-70-50-75-5-3-4-A

Contento
LV75

67-60-74-82-81-83-77-80-75-80-73-71-72-72-63-75-64-65-72-70-72-77-72-67-50-68-4-4-4-B
 

worm

Registered User
KAKA 95 in attack, who the hell on konami are creating the stats ? no seriously its hard as shit to actually understand how this could be right. This guy have been playing as shit since almost 2 years ago.. I hope players like albrighton or pedrito get what they deserve and players like buffon get the stats down.. buffon 98 on defense???? please...


What about Zlatan Ibrahimović...... Overated every year
 
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