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PES 2012 gameplay video leaked

Ali

Ali

It is happening again
Daymos said:
We id say no..

if your looking for it then you'd probably end up finding it but while playing I had the feeling i was in control and responsible for my own mistakes.
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That's good to hear. Though, this is how I initially felt playing PES 2011..... boy how that changed! I'll try to go into PES 2012 with a fresh frame of mind, though I know I'll be looking for evidence of the scripting.
 
shaun7

shaun7

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^Fact is, scripting will be in every football game. It's a matter of how well the AI hides it.
 
Ali

Ali

It is happening again
shaun7 said:
^Fact is, scripting will be in every football game. It's a matter of how well the AI hides it.
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I know. I just want them to hide it better. Right now, the scripting in the game is as subtle as a man running naked down the street singing "look at me!" in a high pitched voice!
 
shaun7

shaun7

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^That's a bit exaggerated ;) But I get what you're saying. Sometimes the way the AI scores is just plain ridicules :)
 
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sgmullins

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I must say it's looking good at this early stage, i must also comment on the 1st released video of "that other game" that i watched. Two words come to mind 1: crowded 2: AI pressure. Man they never seem to learn over there.
 
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sydney2008

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Daymos said:
We id say no..

if your looking for it then you'd probably end up finding it but while playing I had the feeling i was in control and responsible for my own mistakes.
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Daymos , how is one on one situation in Pes 2012 ? i mean when have the ball , can you pass the defender or always the defender takes the ball from you ? and how the 360 system is going ?
Thank you man
 
Daymos

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sydney2008 said:
Daymos , how is one on one situation in Pes 2012 ? i mean when have the ball , can you pass the defender or always the defender takes the ball from you ? and how the 360 system is going ?
Thank you man
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One on one, I found it had the right balance.. sometimes you could weave in between 1 or 2 defenders and you would expect to be tackled but unless your opponent presses the tackle button they wont get the ball..

Defenders cant just bump into you and get the ball.. this time if you stumple you can recover and keep the ball ball and dribble away out of trouble.

When defending, if your confident with your timing and positioning, you can do a hard crunching slide tackle and win the ball and the ref lets you play on as long as you get the ball 1st.. (in PES2011 the ref would have blown the whistle for a free kick).

Read my PES 2012 playtest impressions here>>>>

http://www.onlyproevolutions.com/2011/07/ope-community-members-pes-2012-playtest.html
 
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sydney2008

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Daymos said:
One on one, I found it had the right balance.. sometimes you could weave in between 1 or 2 defenders and you would expect to be tackled but unless your opponent presses the tackle button they wont get the ball..

Defenders cant just bump into you and get the ball.. this time if you stumple you can recover and keep the ball ball and dribble away out of trouble.

When defending, if your confident with your timing and positioning, you can do a hard crunching slide tackle and win the ball and the ref lets you play on as long as you get the ball 1st.. (in PES2011 the ref would have blown the whistle for a free kick).

Read my PES 2012 playtest impressions here>>>>

http://www.onlyproevolutions.com/2011/07/ope-community-members-pes-2012-playtest.html
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Thank you Daymos , Another question please : how about the wide camera in PES 2012 ? Is it bad as PES 2011 ? Or Better ? i hope this game is better than PES 2011 , Because i have wasted my money on it , if i love Pes 2012 , i will buy it .
 
Athlon_

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I read your article Daymos, looks good to me as it seems Konami have improved the area I personally wanted to see better: AI team mates, difficulty, passing etc.

I'm not sure how much I can take from the gameplay vid as the two players playing were pretty hopeless. What we need to see is an AI vs a strong human player match to show how much the AI can take and dish out.

As far as scripting, I can live with scripting that mean your team might play badly, that is part of football, but scripting that means you definitely WILL lose is a big
N. O.

All in all, I'm still quite excited, just interested to see what the ML will be like this year. This is always the last thing to be mentioned if at all so a few weeks to wait yet I think.
 
Daymos

Daymos

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the camera was fine for me but Im ok with the camera's so may not be the best to ask.

I didnt play with the camera's so not sure what view it was on.. It kind of looked wide.

As for you wasting money on PES2011, im not sure if you will like PES2012.

I liked PES2011 and this new game is built with a similar engine but with refined graphics, animation, physics and AI.

I think people who dislike PES2011 may play this for 2 minutes and then complain.. I dont know??

I think its best for people to try the demo themself and hopefully if people like it.. everyones happy.

Athlon_ said:
I read your article Daymos, looks good to me as it seems Konami have improved the area I personally wanted to see better: AI team mates, difficulty, passing etc.

I'm not sure how much I can take from the gameplay vid as the two players playing were pretty hopeless. What we need to see is an AI vs a strong human player match to show how much the AI can take and dish out.

As far as scripting, I can live with scripting that mean your team might play badly, that is part of football, but scripting that means you definitely WILL lose is a big
N. O.

All in all, I'm still quite excited, just interested to see what the ML will be like this year. This is always the last thing to be mentioned if at all so a few weeks to wait yet I think.
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Hey,

Yes your right.. hopefully we will see how the game plays against the CPU.

There was a guy on Saturday who go there early and he said he played the CPU and was happy with it.

Like I was saying to the guy before.. the ultimate review is in our own hands and eyes.

PS the videos dont really show anything much.. its a shame the video cant show you how the CPU knows what you want to do or who you want to pass to, 2 seconds before you actually do it..
 
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Athlon_

Athlon_

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Its great that its a part of the game now, and Konami should get credit for it, perhaps it shows the AI moving towards more a individual level rather than a collective team AI. That would be great from my point of view, as it makes the game tactically so much deeper. I'd love to see the mental characteristics from Football Manager added to the AI so players act more individually. Glen Johnson will get caught out of position or Inzagi will spend most of the game offside for example.


Only about 80 days to go. Not long now....
 
Daymos

Daymos

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I remember wen PES used to make players play like their real life counterpart... I havent got full proof yet but I get the feeling that real life chracteristics are back.

How much I dont know.. the palyers I was using felt like who they were in real life, when I was France, Sagna and Evra were overlapping as they do and were able to weave in and out of a few players before the cross.. (it could have been me from the way I was controlling them).

Another thing with the AI against the CPU.. they have personality and will use skills against you and not be as robotic and predictable.

Its early days yet but im confident the games against the CPU will be special.. I hope!!
 
Athlon_

Athlon_

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One thing I'd like to know if you can reveal, is if the tactics arrows for player runs or something similar is back this year? I hated it just being left to mentality, nothing worse than your DMF wandering off.
 
Daymos

Daymos

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not sure if youve seen the News on WENB, you can control a second player with the right stick when your 1st player has the ball.

so in theory if a DM is wandering off.. you can control him and directing him back :)

It also means theres even new ways to atttack now.
 
wipsnadepoo

wipsnadepoo

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Hi Damos, I know your a champion in the editing side of PES. any word on if they have improved that side of PES, for example improved stadium editor, more leagues etc? Also keen to get your impressions on the managers we've seen waving their arms around on the side line - do you think we are going to be able to edit managers appearances? Cheers
 
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