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PES 13 is much more detailed, better graphics, better physics. AI is still the cheater bastard, as well as in PES 6.
But a lot less fun in my eyes!
Yes, I loved playing PES 6, before I broke my monitor screen...
It has great gameplay, the best ever in PES I think. But poor functionality, old graphics, crazy AI - it makes my choice clear.
I don't think the AI is as "crazy" in PES 6 as it is in PES 2013. They managed to hide the scripting a lot better back then!
Christ. Do you have to be so aggressive all the time when you disagree with someone elses opinion? A simple "I disagree" will do, instead of calling someon's opinion "Complete and utter bullshit".
Fine, I disagree. They werent better to hide it back then, you were just not as good to spot it.
Happy?
PS. I'm not aggressive, it's more likely culture clash. When you want strongly to make a point in Norway, you use strong words. Anyway, we rarely take such things personal, there's no point in doing so.
BTW, you mentioned going back to PES 5/6 after feeling frustrated with 2012. Feeling nostalgic about these games is great, but often it's best to leave things in the past. Sometimes, if you do go back to old games, your fond memories of them are ruined!
konami lost that magic gameplay when they moved from ps2 to ps3 and they never got it back. the movement from ps3 to ps4 will be a chance to bring it back or the final failure. the game has ever since ps3 been broken, scripted and less fun then the old days. add stupid decision (like removing offline stats / league mode ...) and i know why i miss those fun days from pes6 when you had that complete controll and feeling you could do anything you want. nowadays defending, headers and that overall gameplay feeling are broken. maybe next year i will play fifa for the first time since 1997
That one I do agree with, wholeheartedly.
EDIT: PES13 is a better game than any other and older PES versions. I see many people staying with their trusty old PES5 and 6's but in reality they probably never gave the new ones a fair chance. If they had, they wouldn't be able to enjoy the older games that lack 360 movement and other "new" inventions. I've said it before that PES5 and PES6 was better games when they came out than PES13 probably is, but that doesn't make PES13 a worse game than the old ones, if you know what I mean.
In most cases, new PES games are the exact same game as before but with a few additions. So if PES6 was great, PES7 is better unless they completely broke something and didn't fix it with patches.