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PES 2017 First Pics and News!

rebelinho

Moderator
What a fucking disgusting, amateur and childish trailer.

This said, animations look good. Keepers look much better, that Cech save was impossible in PES2016, trailer or not. Graphics look quite sharp.

Didn't do itself any favours with such a shit trailer, but I'm expecting a good game this year.

Edit: one more thing: Atletico Madrid is in the trailer, not sure what will change due to that monopolizing deal EA got.

Edit#2: if the AI is gonna defend like Godin did vs Giroud...
 
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Lörd TH

Registered User
Such a poor trailer, looks like some 15 year old youtuber put it together!

Nice to see Arsenal are licensed but just read that PS4 gets option files and XB1 is missing out again, so no PES for me again this year!
 

simononestop

Registered User
I like the trailer its just showing the improvements and real physics.
I don't need to see the usual rendered replays
 

rebelinho

Moderator
From the video posted previously...

MASTER LEAGUE

Additions made to Master League in PES 2016 have been further built upon with a host of features and amendments made to the famous mode.

Chief among this, is a number of changes to the transfer system including new dedicated budgets for transfers and wages. There’s more variety in negotiations such as the ability to acquire players on 6 month loan and signing the player during a loan period whilst directors will also play a role in advising on negotiations.

The last day of the transfer window has also been reworked with an element of time added to in order to recreate the excitement of deadline day in real life football.

Enhancements have also been made to the Team Role function within the mode following it’s introduction in PES 2016. A total of 22 roles now feature in the game (increased from 10 last year) including ‘Hero’ and ‘Bad Boy’ allowing more character establishment within the team.

The Player Growth system also enjoys major improvements with players not only acquiring abilities as in PES 2016 (which can now also be boosted whilst on loan) but also skills.

In addition to this, the training has been further improved and players are now able to learn their positions whilst also gaining skills and establishing a playing style that complements this. Allowing players to nurture the ideal personnel for their team.

Finally, one of the major gripes surrounding Master League on PES 2016 has been addressed with matches now taking place during both day-time and night-time hours based on real life kick off times.

I'm really liking this so far. One other thing missing is the ability to specify the wages/fees you pay when signing a player.
 

PR3CiSiON

Registered User
I'm happy with what's going on now. Would be good to see what changes were made to gameplay. Suppose that's what a demo's for? Can't wait!
 

OCKRASS

Registered User
I like the trailer its just showing the improvements and real physics.
I don't need to see the usual rendered replays

Please be reminded that Konami does not release ingame footage of the games.....instead they create Short Videos. Please wait for the demo ....it will reveal what enhancements have been done over the past year
 

Pishin

Registered User
A demo won't sell me to get PES 2017. It has to be the full game. I will be looking forward to the issues that plague PES 2016, outdated rosters even for the current year, jersey upload limit, rubberbanding, improved Spanish commentaries. If those have not been fixed then I am out.
 

Ali

It is happening again
I don't think we need it already, the game is still 3 months away. [MENTION=180348]Ali[/MENTION] what do you think? Only admins can create new sections, I assume?

Yes, only admins.

The PES 2016 forum was created in June last year, PES 2015 in August the year before. With news coming out, I don't think there's any harm in creating in soon-ish. I'll probably get on it this weekend.
 

rebelinho

Moderator
Yes, only admins.

The PES 2016 forum was created in June last year, PES 2015 in August the year before. With news coming out, I don't think there's any harm in creating in soon-ish. I'll probably get on it this weekend.

Ah, I see. Never noticed they were up so early.
 

tema44

Registered User
I wonder if KONAMI will give us enough space this year for kits to edit ALL unlincensed teams on PS4.
 

superpes

Registered User
This is an interview with PES Columbia , which is the most objective that I could find on the internet ,it provides some answers:
Your impression

Physical contact
More realistic physical contact including vibration in the control when physical contact happens.

Loss of balance players (not in the rain, not by contact)
I don't see any loss of balance without contact.

Shots and passes of the uncomfortable position
In uncomfortable position is hard to make and perfect pass or shot. In uncomfortable position loses accuracy.

Reception (input) of the ball players
Reception is perfect and have more animations to receive the ball.

COM density/positioning players
The artificial intelligence is amazing. Com learn how you play and always cover this. For example: if you always pass the ball to Griezmann or the best player or your team, Com automatically puts double mark to the player or put a zone defense around the player and for obligation you have to change your moves.

Feints (R-stick)
Same feints, but the players response is faster not only in feint in passes, shooting, etc.

Adequacy (referee, yellow/red card)
Referee is very strict. Bad slide immediately card. Back slide immediately red card.

Shot Power
I saw the same shot power that in pes 16, sometimes a player with low shot power can make a very powerful shot from long distance.

Intentional fouls COM
Intentional fouls immediately card, depends of the type of foul, yellow or red card.

Response control
That's what I love in this demo, the response of the players is immediately you push the button. Immediately passes, immediately shots, defense response and goalkeeper response is so fast so is hard score.

L1 + triangle
Personally I use a lot this type of game L1 + triangle and today I try to pass L1 triangle to Griezmann but defense position cannot leave me done with success. I try lot of time and always defense response running back and heading the ball. (I need to find the way to make work haha)

R2 dribbling
Not use today the R2 dribling.


Q&A

1) Pressing (clicking on the button pressing) is still hyperactive?
Yes pressing button is still hyperactive.

2) The ball bounces on the lawn after a low pass?
Passes are better on this demo. More accuracy and konami works to make the passes better.

3) Do defenders Adaptable (team player) under the COM attack?
Defenders are better in this game, and you can choose new strategies to use in your defense. Advance strategies.

4) Does the R-stick for a power struggle?
-

3) Do high passes changed?
I feel high passes the same, just fast reaction between player and when you push the button.

4) Replays after the match accompanied by a commentator?
No commentator on demo.

5) Do goalkeepers superman?
Not supermen, but are more intelligent to anticipate shots, is harder to score an R2 shot.

6) Switch cursor r-Stick is faster? It is more logical?
Yes, faster and give the impression that always change to the player that you need.

9) Are there any true fan-sector?
No

10) Any changes to the broadcast of the match (black screen / freeze frame there?)
Not in the demo and hope not in the game, black screen and freeze always happened in online games. We need to wait.

11) Jumping GK feel limited/constrained?
The best for me in this game are defenders and goalkeeper. Goalkeepers are more real.

12) Does the game camera's have changed? New there?
Same tv camera and for the demo we cannot change.

13) COM often changes tactics during the match?
AI of the com is exceptional. For example if you always pass the ball to your superstar player, COM change the strategy to cover that and force you to change your strategy.

14) Slide the players feel?
Is difficult to slide successful because the referee is very strict and 80% is foul and card. Slide and touch the opponent makes the control vibrate.

15) COM looking for weaknesses in the protection of human or attacking monotonous?
AI is renovated in this game is better to play vs COM you can't win always.
One more , I would say very good news, it seems that sony will finally allow file sharing ,I found this info unrelated to pes(not coming from Adam Bhatti).Konami has also confirmed this , if it means anything to you :


You will finally be able to share your option files on the PlayStation 4 in PES 2017, Konami have today confirmed.

Teams and Players that you and your friends create on PES 2017 can be shared easily through a transfer on a USB stick.

What is even better news is that it is multiregional. This means that European fans will be able to share their edit files with fans from US or Asia.
Sorry for the long post , not my style , but I hope it is helpful.
 

Ali

It is happening again
The physical contact thing sounds more promising. It's annoying that in PES2016, your defenders will just bounce off opposition players, withouth having an impact.
 

rebelinho

Moderator
Plenty of good stuff, some bad stuff.

The good.

- Realistic physical contact + realistic balance, even in rain. I guess it comes from the Strength vs Balance stats.

- Shot and pass technique matters when off balance or not facing the desired direction.

- More animations, especially in ball control.

- AI living up to its name: it learns.

- Shot power remain similar to 16's, it was already very good.

- AI fouls will be given a card.

- Immediate input response. Long live PES6.

- Apparently defences/GKs and AI are the best/most impressive parts of the game. That alone is highly respectable.

The bad.

- From what the man said, PES2015 levels of refereeing. I fucking hope not.

- Lofted through balls are intercepted way too easily. Just like PES2015.

The ugly.

To what extent will the AI learn. If it resets after each game. During the game, if it learns your tactics, does it get to a point where it just destroys you? We'll have to wait and see. But looking at the above, the good clearly outweighs the bad.
 

AlekosG7

Registered User
Also guys the trailer and improvements for now are from the beta game release, I am sure they will improve it further!
 

Ali

It is happening again
The ugly.

To what extent will the AI learn. If it resets after each game. During the game, if it learns your tactics, does it get to a point where it just destroys you? We'll have to wait and see. But looking at the above, the good clearly outweighs the bad.

It's about time the AI started learning from mistakes. Would hopefully stop the AI keepers from passing the ball to the defenders, often resulting in easy interceptions and cheap goals.
 
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