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Pes09 Ign Review!

john4

Registered User
ive never respected the opinions of reviewers at ign, they do this alot, say one game is better yet another gets a better result like pes 2009 not scoring as well as 08. they wont say a big game is bad, ever, GTA is a good game but they didnt half over do that in the review.

anyways, looking forward to the games release, make your own minds up, dont listen to the chumps who do the reviews, i mean they say that compared to FIFA the play likeness is erratic, pah
 

S-D-P

Registered User
ive never respected the opinions of reviewers at ign, they do this alot, say one game is better yet another gets a better result like pes 2009 not scoring as well as 08. they wont say a big game is bad, ever, GTA is a good game but they didnt half over do that in the review.

anyways, looking forward to the games release, make your own minds up, dont listen to the chumps who do the reviews, i mean they say that compared to FIFA the play likeness is erratic, pah

i always get the feeling they say what the consumer wants to hear, this even worked on me when they say game play is back to its best in so many words. i still think pes will be great though
 

Red Owl

Registered User
Right. This one quote "The bizarre J-Pop is thankfully absent, though the menus are as obtuse as ever and it pales next to the glorious production of FIFA" has devalued the whole review. It surely can't have been written by someone that bloody stupid?

FIFA's menu's are AWFUL! Trying setting up a formation you want, with the players in the right positions and tell me I'm not right, it takes roughly three quarters of a decade! Then there's the menus in stuff like the tournaments - it's so cluttered it took me until December on manager mode to work out what bloody date it was!

PES' presentation is very arcadey, which is very readable and therefore BETTER.

Bloody IGN.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
Why is FIFA Realistic?? Scoring Easy Goals, Repetitive Gameplay?? And again, Unsatisfying Goals? I'm sorry but I think Older versions of PES are closer to Football.

The Animations in FIFA are realistic -but- the Gameplay isn't.. Football isn't that Dull.

FIFA can offer the best "Build Up" Play, but if Goal Scoring isn't Satisfying everything else Fails. Plus, every player feels the same in FIFA.. How can that be considered Realistic??

i feel the same way man. i just dont see what all the rage about fifa is. but ill tell u my theory.

Konami is lazy. EA seems to making an effort ( but falling well short of a GOOD game ). So now ppl are just basically giving EA and FIFA credit not for the game itself but for the, seemingly, effort they put in to it. I know konami is lazy thats very clear if u look back the last three years ( yes pes 2009 inclduded ).

PES 2007 with adriano on the front now that shoulda been PES 2009.....2008 shoulda never existed. but as it stands PES 2009 is still the best foty on the market ( or soon to be ). its just sad because by now konami coulda had a REVOLUTIONARY title...instead we get the same old WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE WITH ME! but 2010 will be special, new engine is coming. its been indevelopment for over 2 years so i dont expect a bare bones game like FIFA 07 was on its new engine. 2010 needs to be a fully fledged game. there are no more excuses konami.

btw i love pes 2009 in case u got the wrong impression
 

RAMAXWY

Registered User
i think you need to play fifa without being biased cos of the name. . . . .yes pes was the game that introduced player attributes etc but this yr fifa has taken the and taken it to a new level. when playing online its impossible to beat man u with wigan unless your very very good, you would need to play long balls to heskey and make the best use you can out of his strength. . . fifa has implemented players strengths and speeds brilliantly. body type are very evident in fifa and the things that matter to you like boots and grass are better in fifa! yes the faces look good on pes but thats cos its simple 2d mapping. . . .you can easily put ur own face using these techniques on the old pc versions. and whats the 90 degree turns that the players keep doing on the new pes? its terrible fifas players run in the direction you point them, no need for supercancel cos you always control where they run, you control evry aspect of passing shooting lobbing and thru balls if you make the controls manual. . .giive fifa a chance and if you like REAL footy you will realise this year it has taken pes' crown. it might seem boring at first but in what real game do you see 28 shots on goal between the two sides. . . .never

are u playing a patched PES with FIFA COMMENTARY cause i tought u just wrote that the stats in FIFA work.
my friend get real, they are there for all to see but they just don't mean annything cause they don't work.
every player feels the same ,every game feels the same, most goals also and that's why it get's boring that fast.
i remember one reviewer of both games also made the same mistake alot of people are making. he said that FIFA is the more realistic game and then he shot himself in the foot by saying but if you 'd want to recreate the 6-1 trashing from BARCELONA vs ATHLETICO MADRID last week you could never do that on FIFA but that in PES something like that was possible.
if he said such score lines are hard to come by in FIFA i would've said ok but he didn't lie he said impossible.
because when u play FIFA the option isn't there because the engine doesn't recognize all those different abilities from players to make such a difference possible .
that's why good stats are importent to PES gamers because they make a difference but in FIFA games they don't mean sh***.
so unless ur gonna tell me that the demo and the game itself are real different i just think u like the game and that's fine but realistic it ain't
score lines like 6-1 are rear but not impossible 9 two years ago MANU 7 ROMA 1 and that was in the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE ALSO THE GREATEST CL FINAL IN MY OPPINION LIVERPOOL 3- MILAN 3)
high scoring games are possible even with great defences such as these.
so again i say the animations in the game are great and all those licenses make it better but that sums up FIFA because the gameplay sucks and i'm not saying they haven't improved no because they have but realistic it ain't.
 

mrernie

Registered User
Yes, but does that make it a better game?



Yeah that was me, and I was sure than he couldn't possibly have meant that, he's just worded it in riddles...

"Far more appealing is Become a Legend, which for the cynical of mind might seem like a brazen rehash of FIFA's own singular take on football. PES stalwarts, however, will recognise it as the return of fix mode from previous games that's cheekily borrowed some of EA's garnish."

I mean ENGLISH would be nice... He's tried to hard too write creatively and has confused people like me.

You could FIX a player way back on FIFA96 if you are going to get all smart about it.
 

scoles_1

Registered User
are u playing a patched PES with FIFA COMMENTARY cause i tought u just wrote that the stats in FIFA work.
my friend get real, they are there for all to see but they just don't mean annything cause they don't work.
every player feels the same ,every game feels the same, most goals also and that's why it get's boring that fast.
i remember one reviewer of both games also made the same mistake alot of people are making. he said that FIFA is the more realistic game and then he shot himself in the foot by saying but if you 'd want to recreate the 6-1 trashing from BARCELONA vs ATHLETICO MADRID last week you could never do that on FIFA but that in PES something like that was possible.
if he said such score lines are hard to come by in FIFA i would've said ok but he didn't lie he said impossible.
because when u play FIFA the option isn't there because the engine doesn't recognize all those different abilities from players to make such a difference possible .
that's why good stats are importent to PES gamers because they make a difference but in FIFA games they don't mean sh***.
so unless ur gonna tell me that the demo and the game itself are real different i just think u like the game and that's fine but realistic it ain't
score lines like 6-1 are rear but not impossible 9 two years ago MANU 7 ROMA 1 and that was in the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE ALSO THE GREATEST CL FINAL IN MY OPPINION LIVERPOOL 3- MILAN 3)
high scoring games are possible even with great defences such as these.
so again i say the animations in the game are great and all those licenses make it better but that sums up FIFA because the gameplay sucks and i'm not saying they haven't improved no because they have but realistic it ain't.

Im not feelin all you people lecturing me on pes. . . ive played the game since iss on ps1, its not like i dont know how the game works mate. There was also someone else saying i shud fuck off to my fifa forum. . . ive been a member on here since 04 because i love/loved pes. . . .yes pes5 was the best but the fact that pes09 has had to go backwards just to be a good game again is worrying. . . and to add to that pes5 was the for its time you would probably still play pes6 or pes2008 instead. And as for above i think your blinded by the fifa title. . .nto giving it enough credit. . . yes those scores can and do happend but very rarely. . . fifa has been out for a week or so and this bloke is saying its impossible to win by those margins. . . your not going to suddenly get those scoreline like on pes because you have to think about the game more. . . if you play online which is all i do and you play against ronaldo with a team taht has slow defenders you have NO CHANCE if you let him get a run on you. however if you get in his way and your defender is strong enough then you cna hold him off for long enough to make a challenge. . . you really need to play the game and not go into it thinking its going to be terrible, i did that at first but slowely you realise how in depth it is not 2d like pes has become, there are so many ways of scoring especially because you control evry aspect of passign etc as i have previously mentioned. not only that when keepers come for crosses and corners they can be pushed off claiming it by a strong aerial player. . . .the keeper never loses aerial battles on pes, im not going to go on and on this is the last im gonna post on fifa. . . i was simply agreing with someone else's post and now im lectured for it!! And to someone else who mentioned 'thats why pes always sells more' dont be a mug. . . fifa has always sold more cos its the game little kids and their licenses always play

Last thing. . . scoring goals easy on fifa? change the settings so passing crossing through balls shooting and lobbing are all on manual and play the cpu on pro or higher and you will definately not find it easy. . . .when everythings on auto of course its easy
 

feed back

Registered User
The Gameplay

fifa 09 - 8.5

pes 2009 - 9.0

thats what i'm talking about .. the game .. the gameplay ..

also the graphics is a high priority for me but i see the graphics in the

demo deserve 8.0 or 8.5 .. just look at the grass .. its ultra realistec
 

Lorenzinho

Registered User
The review was pish. Sometime back something was said about IGN losing some sort of exclusivity with Konami or something so they are probably just bitter.

Sounds like a FIFA fanboy has written it.
 

aoAaron

Registered User
the review sucked. they scratched the surface of the game and never gave us any of the information we want, e.g. whats the gameplay like in terms of compared to the demo, the glitches, difficulty etc.

seriously, i could have wrote that review without having the game. all i'd need is a few videos from youtube and the PES backcover.
 

Gun_Runner

100Gunz-100Clipz
They never get their facts right do they. They always make out that PES copied Become a Legend from EA, When it was the other way round! :angry:

Some fair points in the review, but a very poor one nontheless.

really both EA & Konami copied the general idea from a PS1 game called Libero Grande...
 

Stormrider

Registered User
What makes the mode so neat is that throughout your career you only control one player on the field – yourself! To be fair this is not even close to being a unique idea or the first time that this has been implemented. Back as far as the 80s, Player Manager for the Atari ST had you controlling a single player and following/developing his career. Libero Grande for the Playstation had you taking command of a single player with the AI controlling your teammates. And in recent years no game has done a better job of immersing you in the career of a single player than the brilliant (and tragically under-appreciated) New Star Soccer 3.

Yup. Quite a few games had a similar mode before Konami and EA.

Source
 

manlysucks

Registered User
Mate if you think the most 'fun' game is the better one then you must enjoy playing a very simple game. The reason other guys are saying theyve realised theyre not a lover of pes but a lover of football is because pes used to be the difficult, realistic game whilst fifa was easy and aimed at kids ie 'fun'. Pes has gone from being the greatest game around the most complex footy game and the most realistic. . .i seem to remember last year seabass saying he wants to implement everything he sees in a real game into pes. . .which owuld make me think he is making it realistic but this year after teh criticism 08 got he said that hes never want to make teh best simulation but a game that appeals to everyone!!??? That, imo, is not pes!!!

And as some mentioned above it does look like the old school a lovers of the best game. . .not pes. . . im one of them i gues although it pains me to say it!! i hope and pray, witha new engine pes10 will come back to its best, but i wont hold my breath.

It still is easy! It frustrates me so much when people say FIFA is realistic. My idea of football isn't a through ball to a fast striker and then a one-on-one shot against the keeper. That is how to score in FIFA 95% of the time. Try it and you will win every game online.
 

vietfan09

Registered User
ONCE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

FIFA Never and again step into PES 'S FOOT.

THEY CAN NEVER BEAT PES WINNING ELEVEN

Maybe ..But never. ..PES is legend ...
 

Phat_Tok

Registered User
I have with Ronaldo.

You can't with Henry because his stats have gone awful. He really sucks now.

I just feel the core game is the same. Animation, passing, A.I. Its just so last gen. It feels more restrictive then ever and in some ways more scripted too. The overall feel of the game seems like a low budget footy game. PES has never been like that.

I've loved all the ISS/PES games until Next-Ge to happened. Its just a woeful attempt to be honest.

But thats just my opinion :)

That's is just your opinion....and mine as well!!. The core PES game this year looks no more different to last year. The PES transition on to next-gen has been awful and that's being kind.

There is a distinct different in the way players move around the pitch from old PES games on the PS2 compared with PS3.

On PS3 the players are sliding around the pitch FIFA style and the game has completely lost the realism that it used to have on PS2.

I can't beleive that some ppl here can not see that.
 

DARK JAK

Registered User
That's is just your opinion....and mine as well!!. The core PES game this year looks no more different to last year. The PES transition on to next-gen has been awful and that's being kind.

There is a distinct different in the way players move around the pitch from old PES games on the PS2 compared with PS3.

On PS3 the players are sliding around the pitch FIFA style and the game has completely lost the realism that it used to have on PS2.

I can't beleive that some ppl here can not see that.

Ah so you agree with me.
:)
 

Phat_Tok

Registered User
Ah so you agree with me.
:)

100% in agreement, konami and Seabass have droppped the ball big time.

I really hope for PES2010 Konami finally deliver the next gen PES that we deserve.

Meanwhile, it's going to be another year of PES on PS2 for.me I'm pretty sure the PS2 will have better playability so i'll be getting that otherwise i'll stick with 2008.
 

DARK JAK

Registered User
100% in agreement, konami and Seabass have droppped the ball big time.

I really hope for PES2010 Konami finally deliver the next gen PES that we deserve.

Meanwhile, it's going to be another year of PES on PS2 for.me I'm pretty sure the PS2 will have better playability so i'll be getting that otherwise i'll stick with 2008.

Try Fifa 09, it's very good.
 

Hunter

BELIEVE
I stopped reading about 1 minute in when I seen the writer say "PES's player models have refined little over the years". This year's player models and likenesses are beyond outstanding to be honest, so I immediately knew this writer was spouting shite.

That's the problem with PES reviews, we all know it takes weeks to really learn, understand and enjoy the game. But once it clicks, it is tremendous. These reviewers might have 1 day with the game, how can they expect to click with the game after a few hours play ?
 
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