look, this season ibrahimovic scored 14 goals in 28 matches. Berbatov score 20 goals in 32 matches and he is a substitute. Van persie (who missed half the season) scored 22 and setted up 8 in the second half the season. I'm sure this is enough to make Ibrahimovic an average goalscorer and should have the same rating as torres. Look even his teammate robinho who players lower than him scored more than that in the same season. He can't even header properly even though he is 6 ft 5in
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Maurice78
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just a bit
but the thing is overall rating of a player don't say a lot about his individual ratings.
I just can't believe what konami did to Gattuso, 64 - and only gave him 70 in short pass acc. Why did they do that - he is one of the best dmf's of all time and he gets a 64.
And Podolski, 74 are you crazy! Did konami even see the world cup(highlights don't count), podolski superb vision, great power and good drbbling skills and he is only 74, he is one of the most underrated players in pes.
Scholes, his overall rating is fine but only 89 and 88 in long and short pass, did you see that guy at the semifinals at the fa cup against man city, his passes left me dumbfounded and his biggest stat is his 93 teamwork
Drogba needs to go down as 95 is too much and that is saying he is the best player in the prem when in fact he's not. He might have been last year but his year he has just dropped in form and is gonna probably move away.
Nasri is only 79 or 80 at 23 but in master league, his growth curve is crap - his highest is 86 then he goes down and everyone that saw him play, he looks like he is gonna be one of the best midfielders and the next zidane
And Podolski, 74 are you crazy! Did konami even see the world cup(highlights don't count), podolski superb vision, great power and good drbbling skills and he is only 74, he is one of the most underrated players in pes.
Scholes, his overall rating is fine but only 89 and 88 in long and short pass, did you see that guy at the semifinals at the fa cup against man city, his passes left me dumbfounded and his biggest stat is his 93 teamwork
Drogba needs to go down as 95 is too much and that is saying he is the best player in the prem when in fact he's not. He might have been last year but his year he has just dropped in form and is gonna probably move away.
Nasri is only 79 or 80 at 23 but in master league, his growth curve is crap - his highest is 86 then he goes down and everyone that saw him play, he looks like he is gonna be one of the best midfielders and the next zidane
StringerBell
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Players to go up Borja Valero, Bruno, Rossi, Muscahio basically everyone on Villarreal!
@abu sorry but Podolski is rated fine. Keep in mind he went 1425 mins without scoring a goal back in 2010. Then even after that he had an unimpressive season.
@abu sorry but Podolski is rated fine. Keep in mind he went 1425 mins without scoring a goal back in 2010. Then even after that he had an unimpressive season.
podolski should have at least 5 stars though!!! villareal are ok!
the players that need drastic changes are premiership players they have no real licensing or real ratings!
milito 95 shot accuracy darren bent 79?
f.inzaghi 98 response van persie 74?
walter samuel 94 defence - gary cahill 80?kompany 79?
buffon 98 keeper skills - cech 89?
ibrahimovic att 95 balance 96 speed 88 dribble acc 95 shot acc 86 power 93 technique 98-tevez att88 balance86 speed78 dribble acc 90 shot acc 83 power 80 technique 87
absolute joke!
nasri 74 shot accuracy drogba 85 rooney 87defoe 86 rvp 87 bent 79 berba 85 top prem strikers
forlan shot accuracy 95 milto 95 etoo89 del piero 90totti 92 crespo 89messi 96 villa 90higuain 91fabiano 92
the players that need drastic changes are premiership players they have no real licensing or real ratings!
milito 95 shot accuracy darren bent 79?
f.inzaghi 98 response van persie 74?
walter samuel 94 defence - gary cahill 80?kompany 79?
buffon 98 keeper skills - cech 89?
ibrahimovic att 95 balance 96 speed 88 dribble acc 95 shot acc 86 power 93 technique 98-tevez att88 balance86 speed78 dribble acc 90 shot acc 83 power 80 technique 87
absolute joke!
nasri 74 shot accuracy drogba 85 rooney 87defoe 86 rvp 87 bent 79 berba 85 top prem strikers
forlan shot accuracy 95 milto 95 etoo89 del piero 90totti 92 crespo 89messi 96 villa 90higuain 91fabiano 92
shaun7
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^Not to sound like I do not agree, but I ahve a few points i like to address.
First of all the defending on the Premiership. It is completely fine in pes because the defending in serie A and La liga are much tighter and leave less open spaces especially Serie A.
The midfield is more powerful in the EPL than Serie A (but not more technical). Same with Attack. Players with a normal level of technique can do well in EPL, but struggle in serie A because the defenders don't push you like in EPL, they close spaces. However, speed is a different issue. Fast players are more deadly in serie A because the defence is slower than the EPL.
Keepers. Cech is not with the best keepers in the world sorry. 89 is good enough for him. Not commenting on Buffon because well, Juve were terrible again and it's not his fault.
As for accuracy. Nasri can shoot good, but the players you mentioned like Milito, Totti and Del Piero can shoot much more accurate. Nasri is just much faster with the ball than them, but for pure technique in shooting and accuracy for shooting, he isn't Totti, Del Piero and Milito.
That said, I am not saying 1 league is better than the other. It's just some differences that some people overlook. I watch both EPL and Serie A BTW
First of all the defending on the Premiership. It is completely fine in pes because the defending in serie A and La liga are much tighter and leave less open spaces especially Serie A.
The midfield is more powerful in the EPL than Serie A (but not more technical). Same with Attack. Players with a normal level of technique can do well in EPL, but struggle in serie A because the defenders don't push you like in EPL, they close spaces. However, speed is a different issue. Fast players are more deadly in serie A because the defence is slower than the EPL.
Keepers. Cech is not with the best keepers in the world sorry. 89 is good enough for him. Not commenting on Buffon because well, Juve were terrible again and it's not his fault.
As for accuracy. Nasri can shoot good, but the players you mentioned like Milito, Totti and Del Piero can shoot much more accurate. Nasri is just much faster with the ball than them, but for pure technique in shooting and accuracy for shooting, he isn't Totti, Del Piero and Milito.
That said, I am not saying 1 league is better than the other. It's just some differences that some people overlook. I watch both EPL and Serie A BTW
seriously, ALL (and i mean ALL, really) players of Copa Libertadores teams must be improved...come on, Konami, why you do this with the American teams? this is not fair...the European teams and palyers (some of them) are better, i know, but not soooo much better than the americans... THIS REALLY NEED TO BE MADE!
Actually - they overrate some players.
Ronaldo 89 - are you dumb, he is so crap know and gained so much weight and should be more like a 79
Roberto Carlos being 85 is too much as he is crap know and can oly cross
StringerBell
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whoa whoa Ronaldo is that good! I watched his games in Brasil, its just that his form sucks so he's always down blue which in reality makes him play like a 79. But when he was good he played like the old days. Gotta remember how the condition factor effects a player. Yeah its obvious the majority of Copa players weren't researched and just thrown into the game.
Also to the person who said Vilarreal are fine, no way after Xavi Borja Valero was one of the most higly rated CMF's in La Liga but he's only a 71 not to mention he won the Don Balon last year! Also Bruno was one of the best DMF in La Liga nearly on par with Xabi Alonso.
So what he won the Don Balon last year, pes 2012 is based on this year. Anyway the don balon is all about form, not crapness so its all about your form as you said because quaresma and adriano have one it - two players that are hardly ever on form. So his form might decrease but stats should increase.
Anyway i agrre - the only players they rate realistically in the copa santander libertados is the players that have once played football at the highest level in top football
Anyway i agrre - the only players they rate realistically in the copa santander libertados is the players that have once played football at the highest level in top football
also things that really bug me is fabio cannavaro used to be 99 for jump now hes like 80 just cos hes old surely it doesnt decrease that much? certain attributes should remain and i suppose sticking up for ibrahimovic even off form he will still have great body balance and great technique bu this attack should be 87
Ali
It is happening again
Things like technique, shot accuracy, pass accuracy etc shouldn't decrease by much as you get older. But the physical attributes should, such as jump for example.
What?
Surely 74 is a tad too low for a world class striker.
Anyway, this pes 2012 is 2011 peformances not 2011 but he was a flop at bayern munich mainly because of the pressure to become in the starting line-up. Competition was fierce with players like toni, olic, klose or even muller trying and he fell out of favour with van gaal so icant blame it on him. Anyway, veron was a flop at man u, quaresma at inter, adriano all the time so why are they rated so damn highly.
Anyway, have you seen podolski, he can do a bullet of a shot so his power should be around ninety.
Why is god's name is his shot technique 80?
He's done a lot of one touch bicycle kicks and lobs superbly from awkward angles and its only?
His technique is way too low along with his both dribbling stats as he is a skilled dribbler that loves getting forward and delivering tasty crosses like he did in the 2010 wc against spain?
Wait till he goees to a good club. Then he will be rated aroung 84. Well that is what konami do - only rate the players playing for world class teams highly for some reason.
Also podolski is 74 and heskey and barry are over that - and come on, be honest, you woyld really have podolski over both of them
podolski is no where near being world class as a striker. but i do agree some of his stats are a tad low. tbh i think people are giving too much attention to the overall rating which to me is just a number that makes no sense lol
He is world class - it's just noone recognises him because he plays for a crap club. He did one of the best passes in football with a delicous backheel which shows he needs to have more technique. He is averagung one goal every two games which is magnificen for a player that has to be forced to play in left midfield because of the german coach.
Also i have a definite feeling konami are gonna overrate yuto nagatomo because he plays for seabass's favourite team and seabass allways overrates inter, and that he is japanese, and he has some good peformancess as well as being icluded by the trailer eventhough he ain't in inter's starting line-up
StringerBell
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Those minutes come from after his departure from Bayern. He played for a big club and could not cut it. At Koln he didnt do much either 15 goals in 59 appearances is nothing to write home about. He rarely scores for his club what he does for his country is a different story. But imagine if we had to rate Ibra solely on how he does for Sweden he'd be horrible. But perhaps 74 is a bit to harsh as you do have some points. Imo the Germany squad still needs some tinkering especially in the midfield department much too weak...
Also back to Borja if he won the Don Balon the year before this game came out (which is what the stats should be based on) it cant be justified that he's a 71. He was instrumental in bringing Villarreal almost to the final of the Europa league and for the club finishing in 4th.