Player ratings

[Maurice78]

stats that need to improve is the whole of the ere divisie (holland league).
its a joke when you see some of the ratings of the players.
the only leagues that stats wise is actually looked at are england, spain and italy.
holland and france leagues needs a big upgrade.

 

[Superbeard]

Arsenal only....

Sczesny - should be higher rated. He should be about 82-84 or so, with the one on one card.
Sagna - slightly improved speed and stamina.
Vermaelen - made a touch worse, and worse injury rating.
Djourou - made stronger and quicker.
Song - Made stronger and quicker.
Wilshere - Massive improvement needed. Should be a 80+ rating.
Rosicky - Made a lot worse.
Cesc Fab - Made slightly better passer, more injury prone.
Van Persie - better shot technique, worse stamina.
Arshavin - the most heavily overrated player in the history of PES. Form down to 3 or 4, stamina down to <75.
Ramsey - made slightly better.
Almunia - defence <20. ;-)

Arsenal have been horribly underrated on this game for a while I think.

 

[abu97]

Podolski is not a striker and plays much more in a midfield role - that is why he doesn't score much goals however he does create a lot of scoring oppurtunities

 

[oggmeista]

This is a very subjective element different people will deefinate give different ratings but I agree with you .They should have people who actually know about the game a bit.

assessing the abilities I mean 85 speed for Carew Really?? more like 75 and thats beeing generous

This is why I alays sceptical of patches that come out because for me the most important aspect of a patch is the layer abilities

 

[oggmeista]

Arsenal only....

Sczesny - should be higher rated. He should be about 82-84 or so, with the one on one card.
Sagna - slightly improved speed and stamina.
Vermaelen - made a touch worse, and worse injury rating.
Djourou - made stronger and quicker.
Song - Made stronger and quicker.
Wilshere - Massive improvement needed. Should be a 80+ rating.
Rosicky - Made a lot worse.
Cesc Fab - Made slightly better passer, more injury prone.
Van Persie - better shot technique, worse stamina.
Arshavin - the most heavily overrated player in the history of PES. Form down to 3 or 4, stamina down to <75.
Ramsey - made slightly better.
Almunia - defence <20. ;-)

Arsenal have been horribly underrated on this game for a while I think.

Yes the abilities are not consistent with the actual team but not by as much as I think you believe

 

[abu97]

Rosicky should be 81 or 82 as he is still a good passer but things like technique and drobb;e accuracy need to go down. Ive never ever seen him do a skill or meg players like xavi, iniesta for example and every time he tries to run with the ball he loses his balance

 

[Cristiano92]

Most of the original Konami Stats are just randomized.
That's why I use PSD stats a lot, and decrease every Stats by One.

 

[abu97]

I never use PSD, it's too fake and unrealistic.
I mean come on, they gave nasri ans 84 in teamwork and 81 mentality. now that's randomized. PSD is the worst website for making up stats

 

[Cristiano92]

Where is the Problem in giving Nasri these STats?
They give Player STats to make them move how they do in real
And every Players are compared in a ladder, so if someone is faster than another, they to that.

 

[abu97]

Yeah but they change the stats every week so you keep on updating it which is a waste of time. Anyway nasri isn't loyal - he doesn't want to sign a new contract with arsenal so his teamwork should be 64 - arsenal is a good team and if someone refuses a contract with a good team, they are definitely not loyal. They gave arshavin a dribble acc. of 86 to one of the best dribblers! How dare they!

 

[Cristiano92]

I think you do not understand the sense behind the "Teamwork" ability.
And Arshavin is def. not one of the best dribblers..
I think you are too much arsenal Fan to think clearly objectiv.

Here you go:

TEAMWORK

Key attribute for: All players
Useful attribute for: -

One of the most complex player attributes, a player's Teamwork rating is a measure of how well he can interact with his teammates.

 

[StringerBell]

PSD is a great starting point. In most respects those guys put more thought into numbers than Konami does. I do what you do Crstiano but I decrease all stats by 2 or 3.

 

[abu97]

psd only gave ibrahimovic a shot technique of 94 only. this should be higher in the 99's, 98's as he can score goals from nearly anywhere, anyhow so but i would only use psd for the copas libertados as konami can't rate them. However i will leave the european teams

 

[abu97]

They also gave c.ronaldo 90 dribble accuracy and 91 dribble speed only and don't even think about arguing with mme that ronaldo ain't a wolrd class dribbler because he is. He is as well undoutably the best headerer in the la liga and he only gets 87 for it as well as having an 8 in form on psd. he should have 5 or 6, not 8. So psd can't rate every one properly

 

[StringerBell]

Well the database lterally contains thousands of players you cant expect them to get everyone done to the T. Thats why you can put in your own stats.

 

[Sabatasso]

I just want people to list which players from 2011 need to improve or become worse
for example, wilshere was only 66! he definitely needs to improve and giving him 93 technique is a bit daft.
ibrahimovic and lennon need to go down - i mean giving lennon 96 agility! his aglity is the same as messi for gods sake and this season i have not seen him do anything messi can - dribbling past a team

Have you actually played with Lennon?

There is a MAJOR difference in how these two players, Messi & Lennon, act on the field. Lennon got much less Dribbling Accuracy, and more importantly, he lack Speed Merchant. So basically, he is nothing like Messi and he have a hard time dribbling anyone unless he can run straight lines.

Lack of Speed Merchant is basically what makes Walcott a mediocre player too, despite the fact that he looks like a superstar based on his stats.

And you obviously haven't seen too many Spurs games this season.

I never use PSD, it's too fake and unrealistic.
I mean come on, they gave nasri ans 84 in teamwork and 81 mentality. now that's randomized. PSD is the worst website for making up stats

PSD have their issues, but generally their stats are much better than what Konami comes up with. Because Konamis stats are affected by what club you play in, especially for pure physical stats. One of the fastest players in the world get 82 84 pace and acceleration from Konami just because he plays in South America, for example. He should have 95ish in both, based on official 100 meter dash times, and comparing to other speedsters like Walcott and Lennon.

Besides, at PSD you can make your own username, and advocate your opionions. If you do it well, any stats you disagree with can be changed.

And lastly, there is a built in editor in the game. If you're so unhappy with a few stats, then change them. It isn't so damn difficult.

 

[abu97]

Lennon needs to be a speed merchant though - tottenham vs ac milan, 1st leg and did you see lennon's turn to set up peter crouch and there are more examples but i mean lennon's agility is the same as messi on pes when really i think it should be 93

 

[Sabatasso]

I honestly think this Speed Merchant card is imbalanced, because having it completely changes the effectiveness of any player, regardless of other stats.

I think that this sort of agility should be measured by Agility stat alone. And if the player lack the Dribbling Accuracy to keep the ball in control while twisting and turning, then it would be balanced out in the end.

But as it is now, I usually edit all players with more than 85 dribbling and agility, or 90 or more in one of them, and give them the speed merchant card, in addition to those who already have it.

Quite frankly, the way these cards have been implemented to the game, even if the idea is basically good, proves that the game is not really thought through properly.

Anyway, I have a question; Anyone know if having higher Dribble Speed than Speed makes you run faster with the ball than without?

Because I've been trying to test, but there seems to be so many factors to take into account (Defender catch up, scritping and whatever) that I can't really figure it out. Logically, if your Speed is 80, the closer Dribble Speed is to 99, the closer to 80 Speed you run with the ball. But I'm not sure if it's actually like that in the game.

 

[abu97]

I thnk konami should have some type of personality like in fifa - rooney's always on the move, messi has the ball stuck to his feet, drogba scores lots of goals, dani alves bombing down the wings and hardly in defence, ronaldinho's trade mark pass. This would make the game more realistic as it combines with the players stats so players should now behave like they do in real life. Every player with a rating over 80 should have a personlaity

 

[Sabatasso]

I thnk konami should have some type of personality like in fifa - rooney's always on the move, messi has the ball stuck to his feet, drogba scores lots of goals, dani alves bombing down the wings and hardly in defence, ronaldinho's trade mark pass. This would make the game more realistic as it combines with the players stats so players should now behave like they do in real life. Every player with a rating over 80 should have a personlaity

Drogba:
In FIFA: Big, strong and scores lots of goals.
In PES: Big, strong and scores lots of goals.

But if you manage to spot personality in FIFA, and not in PES, then you are hardly worth even discussing with.

There are many things that's wrong with PES, and probably a few things FIFA does better, but personality is not one of them.