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pro evo 11

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hey guys i was wondering if you could help, i have played my cousin on pro evo the last few days as he has been doing diy at my house (he is about 20) i would like to demolish him he always plays as chelsea and i play as real madrid although im considering another team, we are ok players the results so far have been 2-0 to me 3-2 to him 3-2 to him 2-0 to me so i was wondering is there any weakness to chelsea how should i play against them,is there any other team suited to beating them also is there a team that are good at passing moves as i love to pass a lot in the game, also when he is defending he tends to rush and slide early is there any way of taking advantage of this thanks in advance i play him tonight so would like some fast answers thanks for reading this post

EDIT oops i spelt please wrong in the thread title lol
 

Hunter

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Well for the early sliding he does, the easy way to counter that is to not sprint. Keeping your finger on the Sprint button is a rookie error made by many when in fact you probably only need to use it 30% of the time. But if he's sliding early, keeping the ball close to your player's feet should be able to get the advantage. Playing 1-2's between your strikers should be able to counter his early slides easily too.

Terry and Carvalho at CB work awesome together so your best bet is not to try and dribble through them, but to just pass the ball around and make Chelsea do the running. Once they're out of shape, and the defence is looking out of position, just play into the gaps.

If he's playing 4-3-3 as I assume, your best chance of stopping the solid midfield trio is to be aggressive. Throw in some challenges and try to pressure them, because if you give the likes of Lampard and Ballack time, then they're going to punish you, badly. Always close down possible shots and don't leave any defensive gaps, that's a must against players like Shevchenko.

By making your defence play deep, it may stop any breakthroughs the likes of Joe Cole and Robben are capable of. Maybe set the back line to "C". You could also 'Man Mark' Robben because if you do, chances are, he'll be knackered after the first half and won't be able to offer much else for Chelsea.

I'd probably opt for a 4-4-2 formation, with a team other than Real Madrid I think because defensively they aren't very solid. Possibly Barcelona, Arsenal, Inter. Here is what I would play:

---------------------GK----------------------

-----RB--------CB---------CB---------LB-----

---------------DMF-------DMF----------------

-----RMF---------------------------LMF------

----------------------------SS---------------
----------------CF---------------------------


This way the Second Striker acts as a AMF midfielder as well and helps link the play between the midfield and attack. Remember though, you'll need to choose a strong all around team, who have solid defending, as well as a strong attack. Have a look around the teams, and see if they have 2 beasts that can play the DMF-duo, if not then you could improvise and opt for a DMF and play a CMF slightly ahead. Pacey wingers is a must, no two ways about it mate, we all know Ashley Cole likes to push forward from time to time so you can capatalise on this by playing fast wingers. Maybe have a tall target man if necessary to get on the end of the crosses they could swing in.
 

pro evo 11

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thanks for the great and speedy post reps, i will try everything youve said but im not sure on the teams as i dont like barca or arsenal and feel like im selling out if i opt for inter has anyone got any other teams suited for beating chelsea
 

ham_aka_stam

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i'd recommend united, got depth in that so many players are versatile so you can swap them around if you don't like one of them
 

pro evo 11

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sorry for the double post guys but i think i wont get any replies unless i bump this thread he has now changed to France any tips suggestions reps will be given
 

pes guy

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i thought the main objective in playing pro games is to have fun, you can't win all the time.. oh well i suggest playing as brazil because they have fast attackers and genral all round play is good aswell if your opponent is going to be france also play a 4-3-3 like this;

------------------------helton--------------------------


----maicon-------lucio----------luisao-----------d.alves


-------------------g.silva(Centre mid)----------------


-------d.carvalho(Rm) ------------------robinho(Lm)


-------kaka(SS)----------------------ronaldinho(ss)


------------------------adriano(CF)--------------
 

pro evo 11

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but brazil's defence is weak for the like of henry zidane dont you think to hunter i dont know will find out and post thanks for the help guys
 

pes guy

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it also depends on the option file you have because some national teams have different squads in different option files
p.s. hasnt zidane retired from international football
 

Hunter

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Brazil is the last team you want to use against France in all honesty, it's quite well known that France usually get the upper hand of Brazil in PES6. Cafu and Carlos always go walk-abouts, leaving only 2 defenders back on many occasions, both of which aren't world-class. Having 2 defenders, both of whom are slightly above average against players such as Henry, Trezequet, Saha, Ribery or Zidane is suicidal. A real recipe for disaster in my opinion. Brazil may have a great attack, but they are a cheap slag team in my opinion, especially with the added presence of the cheapest player in the game: Adriano.

Henry and Ribery work very well together so try breaking that link there. If Ribery is playing RMF, and Henry up front to the right then the wisest option is to aggressively man-mark one of them. This will cut off the supplies. Also whenever Zidane gets the ball, rush him and bombard him with pressure and tackles. However don't man-mark Zidane as man-marking too many players will leave your formation skewed and often out-of-shape leaving gaps. So just keep Zidane under contstant pressure when possible and give him little time on the ball. He's the main playmaking genius but he can tire before the end of the match so hopefully you can prevent him from playing to his top-standards and tire him out too.

Always be aware of Trezeguet if he's playing as he's surprisingly great. Always, and always, block any possible gaps left as he can score from anywhere to be honest. As with Zidane, try and keep Trezequet under pressure and just literally suffocate him. It's best to play strong, tall defensive players at the back, and maybe in DMF too as France are very capable of scoring from Corners and crosses due to their aerial ability from the likes of Trezeguet, Vieira, Thuram etc.

Pepper France's goal with many shots too as the defenders have low response rates meaning your strikers can hopefully get in quickly for any rebounds. They're vulnerable to long range shots so smash a few, preferably with players who have the Middle Shooting star since they're more powerful and accurate with shooting from outside the box. And since some of the French defenders have low response stats, pass the ball around 'quickly'. By passing the ball about quickly it can drag them out of position or they will simply 'respond' to these passes slowly and you can get the upper hand.
 

pes guy

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Brazil is the last team you want to use against France in all honesty, it's quite well known that France usually get the upper hand of Brazil in PES6. Cafu and Carlos always go walk-abouts, leaving only 2 defenders back on many occasions, both of which aren't world-class. Having 2 defenders, both of whom are slightly above average against players such as Henry, Trezequet, Saha, Ribery or Zidane is suicidal.

don't you guys update your option files i mean cafu and carlos have retired from international football including zidane
 

Hunter

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I don't really play on the PS2 version anymore, I just play against my friends online on the XBox 360.
 

Hunter

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Not really, I only payed like £18 for the game as I knew it was a half-arsed effort. Even if I could Edit, I probably wouldn't be able to use my Option File online since everyone's is likely to be different. There would be pure cheap gayers with players full of 99-stats, so I'd be quite glad not to use the Option File for stats online. The only thing Konami have been cunts about with the 360 version, is not making transfers when "updating" the game. It seems when Konami "update" the game, all they do is create bugs and glitches, and in the next update after that, they fix them.
 

pro evo 11

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ok will do tomorrow its late after that he changed i stayed the same with Holland beat him 5-0 he is livid we then move on to fight night and i battered him at that its great because he normally wins
 
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