[PS4] V82 basis option file

[alba74]

Ok now I have the point. Thanks.

p.s. this is provocatory:
I tried to change physical stats of 11 line-up of a casual team.
Here is the protocol.

Height -15 cm
weight -15 kg
waist from 0 to -3
leg lenght +7

If you ever have time, try this, then let me know. I tested in training mode some minutes of a match, the same 11 for me and the same for cpu.

 

[vialli82]

Sorry mate, i don't understand what's the meaning of doing this?
That's for changing a bit the gameplay?

 

[alba74]

For me is complete game changer. It's just a test, I perfectly understand it would be impossible to come upon for all teams, but for me it was a whole new way to see the game.:wub:

This year KONAMI said they got smaller players in terms of physical appearance, and I already tried this way last year with those tanks.. This year there is a more suitable aesthetics compliance while you reduce player body lines, and graphically it looks much better.

It's just a different way to play. I felt to propose to you because you make game changes.

 

[alba74]

Normally communities, as you say, care about licensing, but only PC players do something deeply for gameplay, and we know about.. This is a way, good or bad is just a way. Feel free about.

Console communities have to struggle upon internal editor for strategies, tactics. For example I know a certain zeemeister of evo-web which is well known for his work about strategies, and every week he updates every team, giving a scheme.
In a year, I wouldn't really waste my time in edit mode more than 30%, and I never achieved to do it..
KONAMI has a fault about, but with this fucking "every year sequel", you know, is impossible to give pleasure and big upgrade, unless you work on more versions.

 

[alba74]

Hey mate, any news?

 

[vialli82]

I'm currently replacing every teams from Euro, but made some research needs a little bit of time. Some teams are harder to find and i need to create them...
Looks at this thread: http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=102642

For now on i'm doing Cfr Cluj and CSU Craiova.
I need two Ukrainian teams replacing Nelapoltsk and Gharnetova, and i need also to do winter transfers.
Clubs from Turkey, 2nd Portuguese league, and Russia are easy to find.

I'm also aware about Brasileirao transfers stop on April, but i will try to share and update every two weeks, with all correct facebuilds (it's already the case on my PS4)

But the full option file will be something unique and very structured, with a lot of differents clubs from various country... I'm gonna need someone kitmaker for some, especially when i will do PAS league (Singapore, Vietnam teams will be hard to find)

The V 1.0 option file should normally be available on middle february, or perhaps sooner but only with Europeans clubs.
But then, i will made my own FM to PES tweaked converter.
I really don't like to create players without any info/base for stats, or changing 4 or 5 attributes only to change the player's overall.

What i really want is an homogenous and logic database.

Before PES 2019, i'm gonna purpose to all members to do a PESGAMING option file. "Together we are strong(er)" like the shitty PES banner said

 

[alba74]

Wow Vialli,
but if I was only interested in teams without fake leagues, would you be able to give a file already?

 

[vialli82]

I don't have done yet Others Latin America, and they appears whatever you choose for option on Master League (even "without fake league" option i mean)

But yes, i think it's better to work on OLA now for version 1.0, after i'm done with Cfr Cluj

And then i'll do the rest. But it won't be before February, i don't have plenty of time like i've said...

I will also make a screenshot with the right teams order before starting an ML
For at least having Bayern on it

 

[alba74]

I don't have done yet Others Latin America, and they appears whatever you choose for option on Master League (even "without fake league" option i mean)

But yes, i think it's better to work on OLA now for version 1.0, after i'm done with Cfr Cluj

And then i'll do the rest. But it won't be before February, i don't have plenty of time like i've said...

I will also make a screenshot with the right teams order before starting an ML
For at least having Bayern on it

Thank you, it will be much appreciated.:wub:

 

[alba74]

Hi Vialli, this could come as a stupid question, but here it is.
As I don't have a real clue about, when you create a team, or when you settle a default one like LONDON FC becoming CHELSEA FC, after players, you take care also of strategies, FK takers, captain and so on?
I wonder because I was involved in Slarkmeister's OF, and after the euphoria to play with Henry, Maradona, Cruijff and so on, I ask myself, but when you play against these kind of teams, CPU sets the things to come near to real life counterpart, of you have to touch it before?
Maybe it could be stupid but in my mind, I wouldn't approach to a project like that to realize teams don't play like it was expected.
For example if I go against Manchester United of David Beckham, will I see him taking a freekick guided from CPU, or do I have to settle it before?:erm:

 

[alba74]

All of this to say, has a meaning to recreate classic teams apart dreaming? Teams in your OF play exactly as they should?

 

[vialli82]

"Exactly" isn't really the word you may choose, many teams changes strategy/tactics and even coach from matches to matches. For already IG team you've got Live Update which take care of it.

For now on, i don't have recreated teams, i'm just replacing them in their right country... Like i've said it's a long process, and i will need to create an approximative but good FM>PES converter (with some tweaks, more like a guide than a real and total converter for now on... I don't have that much time unfortunately)

About the strategy/tactics question, you only need to settle D.Beckham as first FK taker, that's all...
And apart from Euro and World Classics, i don't plan to create any classics or era teams.

 

[Mad-Max]

Hi Vialli ! What's up, mate ? Still working with team editing ? Do you see the end of the tunnel, or are you still quite far from publishing a complete OF for the ML ?

 

[alba74]

Surely it won't come out until patch is out. Now it would be useless.

 

[vialli82]

I'm still working on PLA and OLA teams... For the full OF i need to do all of them in terms of structure.
But i'm not doing this only, i'm working on transfers too, for all created teams. Transfers windows for winter is like our summers transfers in Sudam https://www.fifatms.com/fr/itms/worldwide-transfer-windows-calendar/

The main issue is that to found, for example, a "Peruvian league exports" patch/export is not that hard, but stats aren't done at all, same for some appeareances.

You think to play with the real league, but nothing is done except players names, some IG transfers, formations and kits...
But all players left untouched stats, or a bit changed for the Overall, and all 4/4 on their wrong foot...

It's sad Konami have loose Libertadores this year, there's too much teams to edit.

I plan when i'm done with replacing teams by creating an approximative but good FM>PES editor, somebody will help me to extract my save (with many leagues created).

My process is hard, consuming time, time that i'm didn't have that much past months.
But the goal is to make something solid and for the long term, not only for PES 2018.

For now on, i can't provide teams like that, at least some of them are well made, others don't at all...

Yes, i will at least sort out a "Lite Version" when i'm done with teams which appears in ML (Others Euro/Others America), but when it cames out, you'll be sure that pratically everything will be made the best that i can...

But i don't know when exactly, like i've said the next step is to create an FM conversion, i've already got many good formulas i've tested so it should be good.

Also, i've checked some teams country related with the .TED export tool which shows the real teams country, and some of your list [MENTION=217703]Mad-Max[/MENTION] doesn't fit (especially "BRAZIL/Spanish banners" teams doesn't exist)

-Giberchampu > Chili
-Zarguapuena > Chili
-Buchaneva > Colombia
-Harmanuci > Colombia

 

[Mad-Max]

OK Vialli, good to hear these good news !

Also, i've checked some teams country related with the .TED export tool which shows the real teams country, and some of your list [MENTION=217703]Mad-Max[/MENTION] doesn't fit (especially "BRAZIL/Spanish banners" teams doesn't exist)

-Giberchampu > Chili
-Zarguapuena > Chili
-Buchaneva > Colombia
-Harmanuci > Colombia

My list was based on an interpretation : I looked at the most represented nationalities within the squads of all the fake teams (on PES-Master), then I deduced the country where the team might belong to. I didn't look the .ted files.

Therefore, what you say explains why my interpretation of Brazilian teams with Spanish banners was false (indeed, the spoken language in the whole Brazil is Portuguese, it's the Southern American only case, the other countries speak Spanish). This is why I mentioned the "banners in Spanish" for these would-be Brazilian teams, because it didnt' make any sense. So, thank you for having solved this problem.

 

[alba74]

Hey man, any news about?:tongue:

 

[vialli82]

Hard to tell, i've got paraguayan teams to do now, then i made an FM>PES converter beta version for this year and only for my use at the moment, i think i've got pratically all formula's done, except for GK, shooting power and some special skills.

The process is longer than i expected to base copy a team on another + transfers windows with full of new players in Latin America...

24-25 teams is needed, but you'll need to replace teams by another in the league structure, for having full Others Latin America.

I don't really have full time to edit i'm sorry, as i'm working on and in my house (i'm currently renovating bathroom, kitchen etc.) that's not easy to conciliate both.



You won't be satisfy if i release something too much unfinished just for having teams related to their own country, with too many players undone in faces/stats, even for playing without "fake league" in ML.

 

[alba74]

Hi Vialli, please say something about your super OF..:erm:

 

[Mad-Max]

Hey Vialli, what's up mate ? Still working on your amazing OF ?

By the way, could you please share your job on the Brasileirão ? It would be nice from you. Cheers !