Screenshots, Videos, & Much More!!! - Part 1
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James_dean
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Now that was a good video. Now I´m looking forward to Pes 2011
just saw this video .... its tooo early people , somtimes i think konami took themselves in a great new direction , at the same time shot themselves in the foot showing video footage, which some twats cant get into their heads that its nowhere near finish, and its from may , and its out in october.
Ultimate777
Banned
The only twat is yourself if you believe the game is no where near finished. Its actually very closer to the finsihed version than you think. This has been in development for nearly 2years. 3 months is not not a lot of time , they'll be using that period to polish and tweak it up, ironing out some of the animinations and detecting bugs, glitches etc before its sent off for marketing. There will not be any added features or extra development in terms of gameplay. The code that you basically see from the video (which are from June not May)is what you are generally going to get in the final release in terms of gameplay bar a few upgraded animations to fix some of the AI which are going to be smoothened out
Now how will have konami shot themselves in the foot by releasing video footage pray tell? Should they not release a demo aswell and put the game straight on the shelves? Do you actually think before posting? If the game is good enough then it will speak for itself and konami as a company should be confident in their product and should be eager to actually show the masses their socalled new revolutionary game instead of hiding behind hype and PR
cut down on the foul language!!! anyways 3 months is alot of dev time, just remember konami implemented 16 way control in august which was 2 months before release, all konami have to do is optimise the code so that post processing and anti aliasing is more efficient, animations wise we won't see anything concrete till gamescom and bugs can ironed out by patches later on in the year
Lets not forget it was an early May build seeing as it was on the headquarters tour, and Konami had since said a lot of animations haven't been put in yet, including the new varied pressuring system. Plus its being used purely for implement sound effects to the game so there's every possibility the build may have been even older than May.
James_dean
Registered User
From the video it looks very promising. I´m not from WENB jesus people who hype everything up like little kids but the animations in that video just look very good for an early code and as someone said above, alot more animations as missing so yeah it really looks good and I think this upcoming game will at least be better than the previous 3 games
I really need a great Pes game this year. If it turns out to be great then I wont have to escape back to Pes 5 or 6 for at least 3-4 years if Pes 2012,13,14,15 turn out to be a big mistake like 08,09.
Shake it.
I really need a great Pes game this year. If it turns out to be great then I wont have to escape back to Pes 5 or 6 for at least 3-4 years if Pes 2012,13,14,15 turn out to be a big mistake like 08,09.
Shake it.
Amateur
Registered User
Dude,
WENB -- can you call that a forum?
http://kitanamedia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2941
There's no freedom of speech in there, and Adam, what the f*ck is wrong with that guy? he lies to your face repetitively and still has the cojones to disrespect you in new ways.
I think is really unfortunate that people like Adam are in such a position, he is just a fan-boy with little idea of how PES can improve: he'll take whatever Konami gives him.
It's very unfortunate that he has the power of censoring feedback, and it's even more unfortunate, how many people waste their time listening to him and his giant ego.
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As for PES 2011,
The game is looking very good, I have nothing to complain about other than the fact it will be yet another 10 Minute Simulation.
But as far as 10 Minute Simulations go, I have no doubts that it will be the best PES to date.
James_dean
Registered User
Spot on there.
My personal feelings towards WENB and their staff is that Konami are simply paying them money for their massive hype towards every upcoming Pes game. I listen to every podcast they do and if they are not accepting money from Konami then they must be just simply retarded fan boys, call me paranoid
but what´s going on at WENB?With respect for retarded people.
Amateur
Registered User
Spot on there.
My personal feelings towards WENB and their staff is that Konami are simply paying them money for their massive hype towards every upcoming Pes game. I listen to every podcast they do and if they are not accepting money from Konami then they must be just simply retarded, call me paranoid
With respect for retarded people.
In my opinion, I don't think they get paid by Konami...
I think it's more simple, WENB are just fan-boys with no tolerance towards freedom of speech; the same exact thing happens in PESGaming's homepage... the only difference is that in here, we don't have Adam closing-down whatever he thinks should be closed-down.
Yes, we do -technically- have "freedom of speech" here at PESGaming, but the vast majority of people who actually comment on the home-page are fan-boys. And these fan-boys do have the power of censoring your comments, just like Adam does with WENB,
I think the problem is simply a failure to communicate,
Fan-boys prefer to hear Adam feeding them lies week in week out; rather than having to THINK when they talk... they just want to hear what they want to hear -- WENB tells them what they want to hear,
I don't blame them, I just think it's unfortunate and boring that "grown-ups" are doing it week in week out,
Joga_Bonito_91
Registered User
And where exactly does this sudden attack come from? And where during this year has Adam said anything from the truth? You are so full of pessimism, what's the point? we all want pes to be great, and you are taking a really illogical point of view.
I'm not a fan-boy, I love football, and nobody on that forum is, we all respect EA and what they do with fifa, you are just giving us shit just like the fan-boy's that you condemn, look in the mirror.
Oh and onther thing, if you do think we are a bunch of fan-boy's, why are you so compelled to make your voice heard? is this a war or something? do we interfere with your pessemistic views with great and refreshing optimism for a game that obviously will give fifa 11 a serious run for its money and give as a footballing experience we have been aching for? Konami really has stepped up it's game, maybe you should wake up and smell the flowers.
James_dean
Registered User
Look lad, nobody respects EA. It´s a massive evil corp. Just look what they did to Black and white 2, and many other games. And yes it´s a war, we got Pesgaming.com and WENB. Pesgaming.com gives us free speech, WENB dousnt. And about Adam. A deffo retard or paid by Konami for his super hype towards the upcoming Pes games. Just remember what Adam said about 09 and 10. So what did he say just few months before these games? It´s pretty easy to look up
Amateur
Registered User
I was compelled, but I am not compelled by it anymore... because I know Konami will do whatever they want, they will certainly not listen to someone like me, because most fan-boys will tag me as a "pessimist"
I have lost a lot of interest, whilst I do enjoy both PES 2010 and FIFA 2010 every now and then; I simply do not enjoy 10 Minute Simulations that much, because I know the BOTTOM LINE about it.
At the same time, I am fully convinced that PES 2011 will be a great 10 Minute Simulation. I have no doubts about that.
Why the attack on Adam from WENB?
Because he disrespected me for no reason, and he does the same thing to a lot of people; that's not cool, you should not abuse of your position.
And also, because WENB is not a reliable source for information; everyone should know that after PES 2009 and PES 2010.
And yes, WENB is full of fan-boys like yourself; have I said that I am better than any fan-boy?
I don't remember ever saying that, I just don't have time to waste on a site like WENB, I know what the fan-boys want, I know what they will tell me, I know the drill; and I'm just not interested in wasting my time with them, I have other interests; not better interests, just different interests.
I want a 20 Minute Simulation,
Fan-boys do not want a 20 Minute Simulation, and they are not open to any type of conversation about it, they have their minds made-up about what they like and what they don't like.
I was like them once, and I don't blame them; I just prefer not to waste my time with people who do not really want to hear my opinion,
And yes, a lot of fan-boys love Football; when I was a fan-boy I loved Football just as much as I do know... but there is a difference between loving Football and knowing how a video game can and should improve.
When I was a fan-boy I was thinking the wrong way, I was just scratching the surface; on the other hand, now that I am no longer a fan-boy, I can see that the key problem has to do with time... a 10 Minute Simulation has clear limitations.
You can polish the turd as much as you like, at the end of the day, a 10 Minute Simulation will always play the same brainless pin-ball game.
As for the "pessimism" -- I have no interest in that, if you read my posts without prejudice, with an open-mind, you would know that I have no interest in spreading pessimism; my intent is 100% constructive.
And by the way, I do not need to be a fan-boy in order to enjoy PES 2010,
You asked me why I felt compelled to voice my opinion; now I ask you the same thing, why do you feel compelled to interrupt in a conversation that does not concerns you?
I don't mind about people joining in on the discussion, but since you asked me -- do we interfere with your pessimistic views?
Yes, in case you haven't noticed, I did not quoted you, I was not talking to you; so YES, you did interrupted my "pessimistic" rant.
Perhaps it is you who needs to look in the mirror,
GuNNerZae
Registered User
why is it that things like 360 degree dribbling, dribbling animations or anything related to improving dribbling aren't mentioned in the development in this game.
Verily it's the games dribbling mechanisms that give it the 'robotic' feel. Those ugly sharp turns and i'm going to have to say the 16-axis dribbling system really destroys whats left of the games fluidity. someone please tell me that something is going to be done about the godforsaken dribbling
Verily it's the games dribbling mechanisms that give it the 'robotic' feel. Those ugly sharp turns and i'm going to have to say the 16-axis dribbling system really destroys whats left of the games fluidity. someone please tell me that something is going to be done about the godforsaken dribbling
Ultimate777
Banned
Did you not see the dribbing in the video? thats basically it, thats the new 360 movement that they have been hollowering about! Then they will mention its 360 movement on the back of the cover. Quick turns and automatic feints is what konami consider 360.
I looked at the video again and it looks as though its going to feel similar in style and movement to 10. They still look incredibly unrealistic while performing tricks and turns there is no foot planting or delicate touches of the ball which tie in with the animations just arcade style do it for your dribbling thats easily nullified by the opposition
Its funny how those saying its too early to judge are getting excited while making statements how great it is and how much better its going to be than 10 yet we are not allowed to mention any criticism of what we see from the videos and the reviews that are already published.
The mexican magazine editor Jjoseca Q&A at the end of May seems spot on with their assessments. I've highlighted the main points which I've come to notice my self in all the videos I've seen without needing to play it. It just backs up my suspicions that we are not going to get a complete revotionary overhaul as promised by konami. So for the fourth year it will be more lies and spin.
- New moves, on the defense, a new way to deal with tactics, new trick system (this we already know).
- Master League Online, Copa dos Libertadores, a new editing system with a surprise they didn't want to tell us (we also know already).
- It's much more harder, because there's no AI assistance, and about 15/20 players have a "new" ability called "Speed Star".
Q: Did you liked the game?
A: I did, because i'm a veteran, but without A.I assistance, newbies/casual gamers will suffer, because it's much harder.
Q: But, I'm going to ask you something. Are the changes radical? Is it much better than all the next gen and PS2 games?
A: No, not yet, we are still waiting for that PES. Sorry.
Q: Are you saying it isn't good?
A: No no, I'm not saying it isn't good, it's just that it won't be the "different" PES we are waiting for.
Q: Are the animations good at least? What about response times?
A: Animations look good, and the time of response is weird at first, because you have no AI help, but you'll get used to it. For the veterans it will be nice to get back to the roots, but newbies will suffer at the beggining.
Q: What the about the goalkeepers and ball and players physics?
A: Goalkeepers were bad, but what we have seen was at 70% so I expect them to improve, because they were too bad. Ball physic is similiar to PES 2010 and players physics was improved, especially on body-on-body collisions.
Q: Is the game similiar to last FIFA editions? Or nothing like it.
A: Well the new trick system is a bit like FIFA's one, but apart from that, no they aren't alike.
I can tell you from now, all seabass has done is started to notice sales begin to drop and see more and more fans moving to fifa. So he has sat down played fifa to see what the fuss is about and taken ideas that he believes will bring it to more of their level so he can market it towards the newer generation of fifa jumpers and still keep the remaining konami fan boys who fall the recycled shit every year instead of being original. What we are going to be left with, are two subpar football games because fifa will be doing the same thing, busy stealing ideas watching what konami are doing, while left with its core flaws and konami will be busy stealing ideas from fifa while still left with its core flaws in engine.
Lets summarise the main new additions for pes2010 and see how original they are
New additions are all tricks to right analogue stick (we've seen this in Fifa)
New passing power Bar (we've seen this in Fifa)
Manual control of player without AI assistence (we've seen this in Fifa)
Better collision (In the video I posted you can see they dont actually come off that great in live gameplay but sure on the replys it will look real cool for the easily pleased!)
Guaranteed lame goalkeepers for the 3rd year in a row
Ball physics are still going to be the same based off 2010
New animinations although they are still clearly using similar build to 10 so once again we are stuck with ape like looking hunchbacks )
I struggle to see the optimism as from what I've seen and heard it looks simply like a patch. I sincerly hope I'm proven wrong.
filthydani
Registered User
I have been banned so many times at WENB simply for criticizing the game which is what a real pes fan should do to make the game better, but adam is a guy who doesn’t care much about the game and wants to hype the game as much as he can to get some cash from konami and get many visitors, if people said the game is bad, it wont help with the sales for the game and it will decrease the the amount of people who visit their site and that makes him lose a lot of cash, so he just wants the game to look so perfect to benefit from konami and wenb fans
filthydani
Registered User
Wow! and i thought i am the only one who thinks the movement is basically like pes 2010, 2009, 2008! The movement in that video is a joke, the auto side steps look retarded, player movement is the biggest problem in ps3, and looking at pes2011, its basically the same shit!!