The GAMESCOM Thread

[Tech_Skill]

^You only mention the bad reviews of pes. Why is that? There were good ones aswell.

Eurogamer said the difference from the early builds of pes 2010 to the newer ones was quite dramatic, thats good.

IGN said they were considering switching to pes over fifa, that was good for pes fans.

Erik from level 7 said there wasnt that much difference and not to expect big things, and so did the boss from pes fan, after seeing what we saw today, we can see why.

Listen what we have seen today doesnt represent 3 years of effort, im sorry, I just dont buy it at all, do you think what we have seen today was being thought about and worked on back on 2007?

 

[Robertinho]

To cheer you all up!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThAfFoTMUNI


If this looks better than PES 2010 now than I am England Queen.

No,real Fifa 2010 from what I saw in this video is much behind PES in graphic,players are looking dumb and is very hilarious to watch them,golakeeper is funny.
Only positive thing from Fifa 10 is way they sprint nothing more,in this part they done that way better.

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

To cheer you all up!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThAfFoTMUNI


If this looks better than PES 2010 now than I am England Queen.

No,real Fifa 2010 from what I saw in this video is much behind PES in graphic,players are looking dumb and is very hilarious to watch them,golakeeper is funny.
Only positive thing from Fifa 10 is way they sprint nothing more,in this part they done that way better.

It doesnt work the link, you cant click it.
Doesnt matter works now.

That pitch looks good.

I've been evoiding Fifa videos, trying not to be jealous. But for me that is Fifa 09 with sligth improvements. Not trying to sound biased but PES new things look far more intresting, for me especially the card system which I cant wait to use them.

 

[john4]

what is the white line below their names?

prolly just a white line?like for decoration? the way it fades at both ends suggests its nothing like a powr gauge or stamina tab.

cant find a screenshot of the undershirts in FIFA on their site as somebody has mentioned, but anyways i highly doubt it will be implemented into PES, maybe in a few years time. it would be good as come the cold weather you see so many players wearing these now.

one thing that needs sorting on both games is defo the AI. after a while it becomes too easy to score on both games, not too much of a problem, but the attacking AI sucks so you hardly ever conced. i just finished a FIFA season, winning the prem with Leeds and only conceded 18 goals :/ my last ML season i only conceded 27 :/ generally because of my own mistakes like silly pens or free kicks, never from a stunning passing move, long ranger or solo effort by the AI

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

prolly just a white line?like for decoration? the way it fades at both ends suggests its nothing like a powr gauge or stamina tab.

cant find a screenshot of the undershirts in FIFA on their site as somebody has mentioned, but anyways i highly doubt it will be implemented into PES, maybe in a few years time. it would be good as come the cold weather you see so many players wearing these now.

one thing that needs sorting on both games is defo the AI. after a while it becomes too easy to score on both games, not too much of a problem, but the attacking AI sucks so you hardly ever conced. i just finished a FIFA season, winning the prem with Leeds and only conceded 18 goals :/ my last ML season i only conceded 27 :/ generally because of my own mistakes like silly pens or free kicks, never from a stunning passing move, long ranger or solo effort by the AI

Undershirts need to be implimated into the game.

The AI is poor, they improved them defensively but they have seemed to forgot to improve them ?attackingly?.

 

[john4]

thats it, i think in the last 3 installments, after about a 20 seasons of ML progressively (from PES6-09) i have saved 1 goal scored by the CPU by the fake ballack. i was just watching the last video, bits of the game do look improved, in prior PES games most people just hold onto the run fast button, and the games could be played like that taking away a solid passing approach, that doesn't quite look the case now. however 2 things disappoint, the ref and his red cards! and the fact we have been stuck with the same 2 sliding animations forever! you know the ones, the standard one and the rare one when its kinda of a tackle from behind/side, where they kinda of hook a leg round and fall over. anyways the main appeal for PES 09 was the multiplayer when round at a mates, although i played FIFA solo more it cant stand up to a social gahthering like PES can. i have mates who dont even like football but will play PES quite happily

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

thats it, i think in the last 3 installments, after about a 20 seasons of ML progressively (from PES6-09) i have saved 1 goal scored by the CPU by the fake ballack. i was just watching the last video, bits of the game do look improved, in prior PES games most people just hold onto the run fast button, and the games could be played like that taking away a solid passing approach, that doesn't quite look the case now. however 2 things disappoint, the ref and his red cards! and the fact we have been stuck with the same 2 sliding animations forever! you know the ones, the standard one and the rare one when its kinda of a tackle from behind/side, where they kinda of hook a leg round and fall over. anyways the main appeal for PES 09 was the multiplayer when round at a mates, although i played FIFA solo more it cant stand up to a social gahthering like PES can. i have mates who dont even like football but will play PES quite happily

I think the slide tackles have improved big tim have you not seen some of them.:shocking:

 

[ZombiFleshDiet]

I think the slide tackles have improved big time have you not seen some of them.:shocking:

Sadly, the Refs still seem broken. In the videos posted today, i have seen 5 red cards dished out and every single one of them was a ridiculous decision.
This small thing is going to ruin the awesome work they are doing on the ML if it isn't tweaked by release. Why play ML if it looks like you are going to have a player sent off almost every game for making what looks to be a great tackle, only for the striker to take a tumble over you and yo uget a straight red. Terrible bug !
Hasn't everyone been complaining about the useless refs since PES 2008?
Why is this not sorted yet ? So strange !

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Sadly, the Refs still seem broken. In the videos posted today, i have seen 5 red cards dished out and every single one of them was a ridiculous decision.
This small thing is going to ruin the awesome work they are doing on the ML if it isn't tweaked by release. Why play ML if it looks like you are going to have a player sent off almost every game for making what looks to be a great tackle, only for the striker to take a tumble over you and yo uget a straight red. Terrible bug !
Hasn't everyone been complaining about the useless refs since PES 2008?
Why is this not sorted yet ? So strange !

In the first video below the trailor the first slide would of been a booking or red card in prevous PES games, so then I thought great the referees arent as harsh.

But then two straight reds, the first one (Puyol's) was abit harsh but was a booking atleast, the second one (Abidal's) was definately a red because it was a clear goalscoring oportunity.

 

[ZombiFleshDiet]

In the first video below the trailor the first slide would of been a booking or red card in prevous PES games, so then I thought great the referees arent as harsh.

But then two straight reds, the first one (Puyol's) was abit harsh but was a booking atleast, the second one (Abidal's) was definately a red because it was a clear goalscoring oportunity.

Were they harsh refs in 2009? i only ask because i never played it. The 1st Pes i never bought ( i'm going right back to even the SNES games of ISS! ) because of the shambles of 2008. I guess you are right, it just looked like the Refs are so willing to dish out Reds instead of yellows to every situation from all the video i have seen ( since Pes2008 ). Is it easier to tackle in 2009, as i guess 2010 will be similar ?

 

[shankly is god]

only if the person playing with torres is a noob. I mean I can score a goal after dribbling past 10 players with carragher in pes...

pinball physics, it happens in real life. Better than having no variation in pes.

CL played at night in fifa 10. So what PES still don't have the licenses.

Look, I don't care tbh, I'm just giving my opinion. If you're happy to be ripped off for a game that should have been pes 09, then thats fine by me!

I play fifa on pro difficulty so i guess im a massive noob considering 80% of people i talk to play it on semi-pro..and i bet you are one of them.....

if your telling me that on fifa you can run past any defender with anyone then you are more deluded than man city fans....

and you were talking about fifa 09 mate so dont say fifa 10 when you know im right about the crappy attempts EA has made at fifa...sure its entertaining but realistic pfft get real...

pes had the CL an EL license so what you just said was BS and also another thing get off the forum if your only into fifa...

and badar you ever herd of a debate??

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Were they harsh refs in 2009? i only ask because i never played it. The 1st Pes i never bought ( i'm going right back to even the SNES games of ISS! ) because of the shambles of 2008. I guess you are right, it just looked like the Refs are so willing to dish out Reds instead of yellows to every situation from all the video i have seen ( since Pes2008 ). Is it easier to tackle in 2009, as i guess 2010 will be similar ?

Yes referees were harsh! Red Card slide tackles were/ are more fustrating when you defender does a auto slide in the box, gives away a penalty and gets a straight red.

 

[Mullet Taylor]

i forgot all about the shite they've ben working on this for 3 years. ack i don't care, the game looks the business

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

I play fifa on pro difficulty so i guess im a massive noob considering 80% of people i talk to play it on semi-pro..and i bet you are one of them.....

if your telling me that on fifa you can run past any defender with anyone then you are more deluded than man city fans....

and you were talking about fifa 09 mate so dont say fifa 10 when you know im right about the crappy attempts EA has made at fifa...sure its entertaining but realistic pfft get real...

pes had the CL an EL license so what you just said was BS and also another thing get off the forum if your only into fifa...

and badar you ever herd of a debate??

Yo dont bring City fans into this lol.

If Fifa does have the Champions League then they should say to them if you have that aswell as us then we want the P remier League license with you.

P.S- Did you see the United score lmfao.

 

[shankly is god]

^^ yea sorry but i hate some man city fans who say " yea the league is ours" or "its like watching brazil watching us" you havent won a trophey in 13 years and you think you can get anyone you want.......i wish all the luck to city i dont mind them at all....now getting back to the subject who is that fifa fan boy calling a noob he knows very well im right but due to some loyalty to lazy EA he wont hear it....

he talks about fifa 09 which is already out and i mention my opinion and he reverts to fifa 10....

any new news out for pes 2010 ??

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

^^ yea sorry but i hate some man city fans who say " yea the league is ours" or "its like watching brazil watching us" you havent won a trophey in 13 years and you think you can get anyone you want.......i wish all the luck to city i dont mind them at all....now getting back to the subject who is that fifa fan boy calling a noob he knows very well im right but due to some loyalty to lazy EA he wont hear it....

he talks about fifa 09 which is already out and i mention my opinion and he reverts to fifa 10....

any new news out for pes 2010 ??

Ano, the league isn't ours yet!

Seabass had a interveiw on winningelevenblog.

Thats about unfortuantly, I wonder what happened to the the team list we were aspoissed to get today, as usual news that hasnt turned up.

Oh and the front cover on there to.

 

[shankly is god]

?? please do elaborate.... front cover?? team sheet?? WTF you on about man ha ha

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

?? please do elaborate.... front cover?? team sheet?? WTF you on about man ha ha

Oh sorry I meant Team List (all the teams in the game), and the front cover is out.

Sorry for confusion........I confuse myself sometimes lol.

 

[shankly is god]

ok ok thats awesome...fair play but what i want and im sure others do tooo is the player faces of the prem.....where all the players in edit mode are shown so we can see what a fantastic job konami have done to make the players look like them selvs...unlike fifa's frankenstiens

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

ok ok thats awesome...fair play but what i want and im sure others do tooo is the player faces of the prem.....where all the players in edit mode are shown so we can see what a fantastic job konami have done to make the players look like them selvs...unlike fifa's frankenstiens

Yup I need more news, screenshots and videos, all I have been doing is looking at the videos over and over again just looking in closer detail the improvements, the flaws etc.