The Ultimate Classic Player Thread

[Krook]

Thanks,

I agree with you : yous stats are quiet well done ... most of the stats i can read through internet are often overevaluated ...

Nice job ... i'm in a hurry to discover your classic OF

Bye

Thanks man.

Btw I've revised most of the stats here as to give some of the players more character as some are, as you say overrated.

 

[kobelebron]

Hi krook..
I'm making classic ajax '70-'73.
I've neeskens, cruijff, suurbier, haan, keizer, krol, muhren, rep and hulshoff
Now I need the others (especially stuy, vasovic, and blankenburg, but also gert bals, van dijk, swart, rijnders and in general whoever you know..)
Can you post them in this thread or give me the links if you have already done?

Thanks a lot..

 

[michaelh1990]

krook are the kocsis stats corretc on pes6 they look at bit underrated cos he was liek the best europena striker with puskas at the time

 

[YV84]

Hi evrybody,

I find that on pesfan forum, posted by Monkeytastic, it can be interesting

Robert Jarni's on J-League winning XI 10, in the Spanish League Dream Team.
Here's his stats:
Height 180cm
Age 28
Croatian
Left Footed
WB* SMF SB
Ls/Lf

His playing Stats (in order starting with attacking)
75
63
79
90
94
88
77
85
82
89
80
78
85
79
68
82
70
77
83
70
74
77
82
72
50
80
Condition 5
Weak foot acc 4
Weak foot freq. 4
Injury A
Special abilities Dribbling, and the 4th one down (I can't read Kanji yet)


It's could be interesting if someone know some other classic players present in this game J-league WE 11 and absent in PES6 like Jarni.

 

[Krook]

krook are the kocsis stats corretc on pes6 they look at bit underrated cos he was liek the best europena striker with puskas at the time

He does seem a little overrated and I have altered a some stats by a few points. However he scored the majority of goals with his head which is accomodated for. So overall most of it I would say is fair.

Cheers for Jarni YV84. Another we don't have to create now.

EDIT: Whoops! I meant underrated. :ninja:

 

[Askala]

Actually, in what concernes Kocsis i always thought he was pretty accurate. One that i find REALLY underrated is Djalma Santos, so many stats that needed to be improved on him.


EDIT: also liked to thank the work done by the people on this thread as i'm terrible finding the right appearances and i found some really good ones here.

 

[Krook]

Actually, in what concernes Kocsis i always thought he was pretty accurate. One that i find REALLY underrated is Djalma Santos, so many stats that needed to be improved on him.


EDIT: also liked to thank the work done by the people on this thread as i'm terrible finding the right appearances and i found some really good ones here.

Yeah I do think Kocsis is rated pretty fair Askala. The one stat which is too low imo is his stamina (71) which makes it difficult for him to last a whole game. His shot wasn't great but he did score with it so I've made it 83 accuracy. In fact it's true he wasn't a great player but with a header like his... he is remembered as one.

As for Djalma Santos, I think you're right. I'll take a look into his stats when I get a chance.

Glad that our work is useful to you Askala.

 

[AMC]

Yeah I do think Kocsis is rated pretty fair Askala. The one stat which is too low imo is his stamina (71) which makes it difficult for him to last a whole game. His shot wasn't great but he did score with it so I've made it 83 accuracy. In fact it's true he wasn't a great player but with a header like his... he is remembered as one.

As for Djalma Santos, I think you're right. I'll take a look into his stats when I get a chance.

Glad that our work is useful to you Askala.

Any chance you can have a look at Carlos Alberto as well? I think he's under-rated as well.

Cheers.

 

[Askala]

Any chance you can have a look at Carlos Alberto as well? I think he's under-rated as well.

Cheers.

Also agree with this one, although in Djalma Santos case i think it's more notorious in game.

The reason why i say this is: Both Carlos Alberto and Djalma Santos were made as decent to good technically gifted players while they were very good at it. Still, these stats would only be improved a bit, maybe quite a bit in some but mostly would just be a few points up. However in Djalma Santos, besides the skill related stats, it's impossible to notice in game how dominant he was phisically.. ratings like stamina, balance, jumping, condition... Djalma was not only a great football player, but a great athlete as well.

Just my opinion, and i could obviously change it in my game, but i guess an extra opinion on some players won't do any harm

 

[ally_mct]

will the option file hav real kits for premiership teams

 

[Red_Phoenix]

Hi!

I've been following ur thread for quite a while now and I really like it tbh.

I've got a question which u can hopefully answer me:

Do u know height and weight of Heinz Stuy, Ajax' legendary GK in the 1970s?

 

[kjphoops]

classic clubs

Av seen that u hav created the likes of jimmy johnstone and terry butcher in ur ultimate classic player thread, I was just wondering if u could create a classic celtic an classic rangers team, I would be so grateful if u could.

 

[Krook]

will the option file hav real kits for premiership teams

Yeah the option file has all the current teams edited with correct kits, lineups etc.

Do u know height and weight of Heinz Stuy, Ajax' legendary GK in the 1970s?

187/74

According to Electus's blog. Glad you like the thread.

Av seen that u hav created the likes of jimmy johnstone and terry butcher in ur ultimate classic player thread, I was just wondering if u could create a classic celtic an classic rangers team, I would be so grateful if u could.

Well Classic Celtic is being worked on as we speak. They are one of the teams to be included in my option file when it is released. Rangers unfortunately did not make the cut but they will be made eventually.

 

[Red_Phoenix]

Stuy is supposed to be 74kg only!?

OMG... He looks huge on the pics I found of him. Broad shoulders, quite big chest. I would have guessed him on at least 85kg.

 

[Krook]

Stuy is supposed to be 74kg only!?

OMG... He looks huge on the pics I found of him. Broad shoulders, quite big chest. I would have guessed him on at least 85kg.

Well I can't confirm that is correct but you are right to assume he should be heavier. I would say the height is the more important stat than the weight but I think you should definitely add a little bit more.

Post your creation here if you can & want to, Red_Phoenix.

 

[Red_Phoenix]

I'll do as soon as I'm satisfied with it.

 

[Cruyff_Turn]

Any idea when the option file will be released?

 

[Gerd_Muller]

Any idea when the option file will be released?

Sometime before New Year... I think...

 

[Red_Phoenix]

STUY, HEINZ

BUILD FACE/
SKIN COLOUR/1
HEAD HEIGHT/+1
HEAD WIDTH/-5
OVERALL POSITION/-1
BROWS/6/-2/-3/-3
EYES/7/-1/0/0/0/1/Brown/2
NOSE/5/-2/+1
CHEEKS/3/-2
MOUTH/6/0/0
JAW/5/-3/+1
HAIR/Curly 1/2/5/2/-
HAIR COLOUR/Pattern/10
FACIAL HAIR/110/9
HEIGHT/WEIGHT/187/85
PHYSIQUE/-2/+2/+3/+1/+2/-1/+3/+1/+1/0
ACCESSORIES/No/No/-/No/-/No/-/No/No/No/always long/2/No

There he is!

 

[allezcaen14]

Someone can make Anton Turek, the goalkeeper of Germany '54?