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marcgiu

Registered User
is it just me or has there been multiple reviews that have given FIFA a higher score - has anyone seen a review yet that makes PES the better all round game.

I have no issues if they have but to be honest , apart from the Guardian review, I have not seen one.

This is not just one persons view - it seems to be the industry opinion
 

Ballist1x

Registered User
its easy to dismiss reviews because they gave it a bad score...

if they had given it a good score you would have been all over it. this is the sad fact - and these same sites have given good pro evo reviews previously (though not for some time).

it seems to be a common trend that people are giving the game 7/10 or 8/10 - and whilst yes there might be something in it for you that a reviewer hasnt quite picked up, the gist seems to be that this years pro evo is not what we were wanting nor expecting!

clearly a lot of folk will buy regardless, my pre order is still in...but it does sound suspiciously similar to a hacked and patched up 2009...and i havent touched 2009 since my 6ft 6 Bobchenko got signed for newcastle in the create a player mode thing!
 

shaun7

Registered User
^It sounds nothing like that.
I saw more 8/10's in most reviews which is good but still they're opinions.
Edit take a look. Many are giving pes an 8.
PSM3 UK Magazine 89

BeNe Official Playstation Magazine: 83

gameradio : 82

3djuegos: 8

multiplayer : 8.7

Gamereactor.de 9/10

hardgame2: 80

gameblog : 4/5

IGN :87

gameswelt : 90

GameOn UK: 9.5/10

metacritic : 80

pcaction : 91

Vandal Online : 8.4/10

Xbox World 360 Magazine UK: 78/100

Spaziogames 8.2/10

Level7 8/10

M-Games :86

Average = 84.7 or 8.5

I think it's just you who are reading bad reviews all the time.
 

Ballist1x

Registered User
no i read the collated reviews on pesfan.com didnt one average come to 83/100?

to me that tells me there were a lot of 8/10 and similar...

for example you have missed from your list -

C*VG
Gamerlife 7/10
Eurogamer 7/10

tell me, do you write the reviews for GameOn Uk?

-note that 8/10 is not a good score, its more of a 'not bad, but try harder next time'
 

shaun7

Registered User
^I mentioned the good ones because you always commented on the bad ones.

tell me, do you write the reviews for GameOn Uk?
I am not a fanboy. Jesus.
If I had the final copy I would have wrote a review here. You are not being normal right now because you're being way too picky and annoying. Accept the good reviews and bad ones and go on. Stop commenting on bad ones only

Oh and 8 is actually an A not try harder next time. 9 is A+ and 10 is Excellent.
Also pes 6 and 5 on some sites were bashed especially pes 6. So accept the bad reviews in every damn game.
 

Ant1975

Registered User
^I mentioned the good ones because you always commented on the bad ones.


I am not a fanboy. Jesus.
If I had the final copy I would have wrote a review here. You are not being normal right now because you're being way too picky and annoying. Accept the good reviews and bad ones and go on. Stop commenting on bad ones only

Oh and 8 is actually an A not try harder next time. 9 is A+ and 10 is Excellent.
Also pes 6 and 5 on some sites were bashed especially pes 6. So accept the bad reviews in every damn game.

How could anyone get the impression your a fanboy??
 

Ballist1x

Registered User
shaun7, you need to distinguish between PES vets with an axe to grind over inferior sequels to fifa fans or pes haters.

by brushing over the cracks and pretending that PES10 is really the 'ROTK' will only reinforce konamis position and tendancy to throw out sub-par releases...this is not what i want. nor do i want to be railroaded into fifa. only by providing realistic appraisal and critique can we send Konami back to the drawing board...

btw OPM gave PES6 (PS2) 10/10... noone has given PES10 10/10.
 

shaun7

Registered User
shaun7, you need to distinguish between PES vets with an axe to grind over inferior sequels to fifa fans or pes haters.

by brushing over the cracks and pretending that PES10 is really the 'ROTK' will only reinforce konamis position and tendancy to throw out sub-par releases...this is not what i want. nor do i want to be railroaded into fifa. only by providing realistic appraisal and critique can we send Konami back to the drawing board...

btw OPM gave PES6 (PS2) 10/10... noone has given PES10 10/10.

^Emm there was review that was 9.5 for pes 10. There were other for pes 6 which gave fifa a higher score that year. Reviews are opinions and nothing too serious.
Also for the LAST TIME NOW. I never said that pes 10 will be without flaws. I'l comment about them for sure, but it's a good game nonetheless. The we demo is really enjoyable and I believe the final version of pes will also be. But it can never be without flaws and bitching about them now wont do any good.
 

Perfectstrik

Registered User
shaun7, you need to distinguish between PES vets with an axe to grind over inferior sequels to fifa fans or pes haters.

by brushing over the cracks and pretending that PES10 is really the 'ROTK' will only reinforce konamis position and tendancy to throw out sub-par releases...this is not what i want. nor do i want to be railroaded into fifa. only by providing realistic appraisal and critique can we send Konami back to the drawing board...

btw OPM gave PES6 (PS2) 10/10... noone has given PES10 10/10.

Pes10 is a vastly supperior game to pes09 and any previous pes on the ps2 and its certainly more realistic then floatie planet no gravity fifa10.

Whats basically happened is pes10 is very subtle and deep and requires a deeper understanding and level of skill to get the best from it whear as fifa10 is more gratifying and pick up and play and this has been reflected in the review score because many journos havent clicked or come to fully understand the subtlety and depth of pes10.

This will change in the months to come though as its always hard to draw a comprehensive conclusion on a footie game in 2 weeks or a few days.
 

seagass

Banned
my friends brother said he is going to sue EA he said he was player FIFA 2010 for around 14 hours straight and his retina started to burn in his eyes!

he says he can constantly see a faded football in his sight and that his eyes water alot he is really strong guy to and is not pussy so he wouldnt complain if it wasnt bad maybe soon EA will not be able to release FIFA if it is burning people eyes
 

Daymos

Registered User
I rented fifa for 7 days and when you 1st play it you think good things.

But I found the hollowness in fifa sets in fairly quickly.
I was going to take it back after the 1st night after realising the tackle system single handidly ruins the game but I had to give fifa a try and ended up keeping it to try and enjoy it and get my 7 days monies worth.

I downloaded the Pro online code for the 360 last night.. (read my comment in the "Amazing" post)

I love it.. Its different from the WE & PES demos

its a slow burner and you have to play a good 2 or 3 games with the will to want to enjoy it.. ive done 12 games online and im learning new things.. after each game

High through ball passes are spot on un like what some people have stated in their on the fly reviews..
you can control the angle and the distance of the pass to reach your player.. (its not like before where it chooses for you)
That takes a couple of games to fully appreciate and use to great effect..

If you play fifa and get accustomed to the way fifa plays then you may not like Pro 2010 straight away.

Newspaper reviewers will not be accurate and its certainly not fair to compare the 2 games after a quick review each..

Id like to see how long the average fifa player plays fifa each year.. some people i know stopped before christmas

Pro players usually keep it in the machine all year until the next game comes out.

I say, if you still managed to find enjoyment from Pro 2008 & Pro 2009 like i did even with the faults then i am almost certain you will love this.

If your one of those Pro evo 2 was the best in the world and cant move on.. then i really dont know if you will like 2010.

Fifa players too may not like it either.. i think it will be very hard to own both games and the styles of play are very different
 

StringerBell

Registered User
I rented fifa for 7 days and when you 1st play it you think good things.

But I found the hollowness in fifa sets in fairly quickly.
I was going to take it back after the 1st night after realising the tackle system single handidly ruins the game but I had to give fifa a try and ended up keeping it to try and enjoy it and get my 7 days monies worth.

I downloaded the Pro online code for the 360 last night.. (read my comment in the "Amazing" post)

I love it.. Its different from the WE & PES demos

its a slow burner and you have to play a good 2 or 3 games with the will to want to enjoy it.. ive done 12 games online and im learning new things.. after each game

High through ball passes are spot on un like what some people have stated in their on the fly reviews..
you can control the angle and the distance of the pass to reach your player.. (its not like before where it chooses for you)
That takes a couple of games to fully appreciate and use to great effect..

If you play fifa and get accustomed to the way fifa plays then you may not like Pro 2010 straight away.

Newspaper reviewers will not be accurate and its certainly not fair to compare the 2 games after a quick review each..

Id like to see how long the average fifa player plays fifa each year.. some people i know stopped before christmas

Pro players usually keep it in the machine all year until the next game comes out.

I say, if you still managed to find enjoyment from Pro 2008 & Pro 2009 like i did even with the faults then i am almost certain you will love this.

If your one of those Pro evo 2 was the best in the world and cant move on.. then i really dont know if you will like 2010.

Fifa players too may not like it either.. i think it will be very hard to own both games and the styles of play are very different

wish i could have gotten an online code. Thats what I've been hearing a lot of you need to sit down with the game and get used to it once your accustomed to its style than its great.
 

Gun_Runner

100Gunz-100Clipz
not this again, come on now. This forum is so much more mature than the FIFA forums and you want to know why? because people who know the game play PES and know that FIFA is just not as realistic as PES.

your opinion. I would say that FIFA is more realistic because of the freedom you have in the game.
 

Daymos

Registered User
I say, if you still managed to find enjoyment from Pro 2008 & Pro 2009 like i did even with the faults then i am almost certain you will love this.

you guys need to raise your expectations


I hear you but your missing the point..

Im not saying 2008 was perfect .. i do however think 2009 was a good game with much room for improvement as they have done now with 2010..

The issue is..

when you realise its not to " your expectations" do you boycott it or still have fun with the game..

I chose to enjoy the game and not cut off my nose to spite my face..

Many people didnt play either fifa or pro last year as it didnt meet "their expectations"

Perhaps some people have expectations too high..??
 

Ballist1x

Registered User
Many people didnt play either fifa or pro last year as it didnt meet "their expectations"

Perhaps some people have expectations too high..??

i fear maybe you are right.

what was i expecting? a marked departure from PES08/09 i guess as i viewed them as pretty poor considering the jump in hardware capabilities from PS2-PS3...

Konami said that PES08 was not true next gen.. but that the next one would be.. come 2009 and it was 2008 but with some tweaks, bug fixes and a few bits and pieces...

come 2010, konami promises the return of the king... i see a patched up, slicker version of 09...am i dissapointed in this? yes. were expectations > deliverables? yes imo they were.
 

shaun7

Registered User
^Shut up about a patched pes 09.
Look deeper and it's not
Differences between pes 09 and we 10 demo
Defence is much better (1st major problem in pes 09)
AI is harder (2nd major problem in pes 09)
AI positioning is better (though it can be better)
Shooting is better
Dribbling can't be used all the time (a major problem in pes 09 was that you can dribble with anyone)
Lots of individuality added.
Those alone make it more than a patched 09.
I know it has bad points like animations and less freedom in passing and sometimes weird positioning.
See, I can find bad points and good ones unlike you who just maybe played a bit of the demo and started moaning. I think it's better to wait for the final release. That's when a fair judgement is given. :)
 
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