Through Pass Sucks

[SeFu]

What more can I say...

Even when the guy is wide open, the pass will end up going to the one spot where the defender is able to EASILY cut it off.

And sometimes it doesnt even go to the right person AT ALL, I will be clearly facing the wing man and the ball will go to the striker who is horribly covered...

Strikers will be in mid sprint so Ill time a through pass to them and they act like deer in headlights, they just come to a complete stop, wait for the defender to catch up to them, then run, holding hands with the defender, to the ball... defender winning the challenge 95% of the time...

Through pass sucks, what more can I say...

 

[SeFu]

Too bad FIFA doesnt have BaL mode, I would love to play a different game...

 

[blazer89]

I kind of think it sucks too, the way they have it set up, but it sounds like you aren't timing it right. I had trouble with the through pass early on, until I got a feel for it and learned what works and what doesn't work.

It would be a lot better (and easier) if they gave you more control of the direction and power. But as is you just have to realize that the through ball is pretty much like the rest of the game: a series of lengthy animations that you trigger with various inputs. The more you learn these animations, and how and when to trigger them, the more success you will have.

 

[ThaReaper01]

That's why I'm starting to use the LPB. Much more accurate. I can tweak the distance and power to my liking.

 

[0zz]

I only use short through passes, cause long ones is basically giving ball to opponent.

 

[25~ZoLa~25]

It's all about the timeing of the pass.
If you pass it to early it will get blocked,
if you pass it to late it will get blocked.
Through passes usually work for me when i pass the ball at just the right time

 

[dan80]

I hate AI making through passes normally end up in the keepers hands.

 

[Stormrider]

If the guy is wide open, why on earth are you sending a through ball? I used to make that mistake a lot, mainly because I had a habit of hitting triangle when passing in the final 3rd.

The through passes aren't the greatest I've ever seen in a game but they do work like intended if you pick your moments. Just stop using it so much and start using normal short passes in some situations where you'd normally use a through pass. Fyi normal short passes are able to pass into space as well sometimes. Eventually you'll see what situation is best for using X and what situation is best for triangle. It'll take some getting use to by avoiding that dam triangle button though :laugh:

 

[Top Player]

It's all about the timeing of the pass.
If you pass it to early it will get blocked,
if you pass it to late it will get blocked.
Through passes usually work for me when i pass the ball at just the right time

This guy got the point! irate:

 

[Joey Tribbiani]

Do you guys think that the introduction of a FIFA style power bar would help? Also, sometimes through-balls just don't go in the direction intended for some reason. It's definately got to be an area for improvement for PES 2011.

 

[SeFu]

Do you guys think that the introduction of a FIFA style power bar would help? Also, sometimes through-balls just don't go in the direction intended for some reason. It's definately got to be an area for improvement for PES 2011.

And there is where my problem is apparently... Perfect example is in a game I played earlier tonight.

I had a dream counter attack situation. I, the attacking midfielder, and both strikers ahead of me up against a single defender.

In a real game this is a no lose situation...

The defender was lined up between the striker diagonally to my right.
So I try to through pass to the striker diagonally to my left to let him finish taking the ball to the goal and cross or strike it.

Not only did my pass not go to the right guy, it went STRAIGHT to the feet of the defender...

Thats just a bit frustrating as its like all the work going into setting up the perfect counter strike is lost on what can only be called a glitch.

Anyway, just venting thats all.

 

[blazer89]

...The defender was lined up between the striker diagonally to my right.
So I try to through pass to the striker diagonally to my left to let him finish taking the ball to the goal and cross or strike it...

You really have to emphasize who you are passing it to. In this particular situation, say you were moving from left to right and wanted to pass it to the forward to his left... That would be the player on the top of the screen. You almost have to aim directly up to make it happen. If you aim directly towards the player it might register as wanting to pass it forward, and instead pass it to the player on the bottom... Or to his right.

It's counter intuitive, I know, and the only thing I can say is take the time to learn it and get used to it.

Also, a good alternative to the through ball is the early cross (L1 + circle, on the PS3). Though obviously this wouldn't have helped with an attack down the middle, the early cross is much more reliable when going down the flanks, and it usually leads the player you're passing to and sort of acts as a through ball.

 

[ThaReaper01]

You really have to emphasize who you are passing it to. In this particular situation, say you were moving from left to right and wanted to pass it to the forward to his left... That would be the player on the top of the screen. You almost have to aim directly up to make it happen. If you aim directly towards the player it might register as wanting to pass it forward, and instead pass it to the player on the bottom... Or to his right.

It's counter intuitive, I know, and the only thing I can say is take the time to learn it and get used to it.

Also, a good alternative to the through ball is the early cross (L1 + circle, on the PS3). Though obviously this wouldn't have helped with an attack down the middle, the early cross is much more reliable when going down the flanks, and it usually leads the player you're passing to and sort of acts as a through ball.

Is something we as gamers should not have to do. A footie game should be straight forward and Konami have cocked everything up by making everything overcomplicated. FK's, pens, TB's, etc. The game itself is unintelligent. The game should know who I want to pass too based on possible success rate of the pass. To the other chaps point, yes, a FIFA-esc power meter would help the game on all accounts. But knowing Konami, they would/will probably cock that up too. :no:

 

[blazer89]

...The game should know who I want to pass too based on possible success rate of the pass...

Actually they should just make it so the pass goes where you are aiming.

By the way, you are just about the biggest moron I have come across on the internet, and that's saying something, let me tell you. Do you have no shame? No sense of anything at all? Quit being such a lowlife jerk, it will catch up to you one day if it hasn't already. And if you don't want to do it for your sake, do it for the sake of this forum, because you really stink up this place with your posts.

 

[ThaReaper01]

Actually they should just make it so the pass goes where you are aiming.

By the way, you are just about the biggest moron I have come across on the internet, and that's saying something, let me tell you. Do you have no shame? No sense of anything at all? Quit being such a lowlife jerk, it will catch up to you one day if it hasn't already. And if you don't want to do it for your sake, do it for the sake of this forum, because you really stink up this place with your posts.

haha If you are pushing the stick forward to move, how do you aim? You stop, you are dispossessed.


TBH, I have no idea what you are talking about. I have just as much right as you do to speak my mind. The contradiction in your seem like the "moron". What have I done to make your panties tie up? Hmm?



EDIT: haha Nevermind. Look who I'm talking too. The guy think PES 2010 one of the better sports titles of this gen. :lol:

 

[forken]

thereaper go play fifa 10 ty =p

I think the trough ball system is okay...sure it difficult but it add to realisim, since in those situation sometime play take the wrong descision and with trough ball being that way you can make the wrong pass...theres alot of things in pes that could be so called''scripted'' or that you dont have full power on it...as a player, but all it does really is adding to the up and downs and reality of football about what we see every week end...thats why i love PES

 

[Stormrider]

And there is where my problem is apparently... Perfect example is in a game I played earlier tonight.

I had a dream counter attack situation. I, the attacking midfielder, and both strikers ahead of me up against a single defender.

In a real game this is a no lose situation...

The defender was lined up between the striker diagonally to my right.
So I try to through pass to the striker diagonally to my left to let him finish taking the ball to the goal and cross or strike it.

Not only did my pass not go to the right guy, it went STRAIGHT to the feet of the defender...

Thats just a bit frustrating as its like all the work going into setting up the perfect counter strike is lost on what can only be called a glitch.

Anyway, just venting thats all.

I know exactly what you mean, just use a normal short pass in that situation. For some reason a diagonal through ball will almost always reach the defenders feet, even if it seems like there's plenty of space. It's been like this for the past few years now. But using a normal pass will never get near the defender.

After a normal pass you can hold sprint + forward to take the ball on the turn. I guess this is still an area that needs more tweaking but I don't have much of a problem with it. I know which situations calls for a through pass and which calls for a short pass and 90% of the time the pass will work out the way I intended.

 

[dwbr23]

What more can I say...

Even when the guy is wide open, the pass will end up going to the one spot where the defender is able to EASILY cut it off.

And sometimes it doesnt even go to the right person AT ALL, I will be clearly facing the wing man and the ball will go to the striker who is horribly covered...

Strikers will be in mid sprint so Ill time a through pass to them and they act like deer in headlights, they just come to a complete stop, wait for the defender to catch up to them, then run, holding hands with the defender, to the ball... defender winning the challenge 95% of the time...

Through pass sucks, what more can I say...

Its not supposed to be made easy, maybe you suck?

 

[sweetmusicman]

Do you guys think that the introduction of a FIFA style power bar would help? Also, sometimes through-balls just don't go in the direction intended for some reason. It's definately got to be an area for improvement for PES 2011.

MHO- I dont think we need FIFA style on PES; What Konami has to do is to get back to the physics of previous games especially PES 6. Through passes were perfect back then.

 

[sweetmusicman]

Is something we as gamers should not have to do. A footie game should be straight forward and Konami have cocked everything up by making everything overcomplicated. FK's, pens, TB's, etc. The game itself is unintelligent. The game should know who I want to pass too based on possible success rate of the pass. To the other chaps point, yes, a FIFA-esc power meter would help the game on all accounts. But knowing Konami, they would/will probably cock that up too. :no:

Lol, very true.