alanjog
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that verbal volley was the best. i actually feel sad for 'jayjay1306'
Tragic Year For Football Games
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that verbal volley was the best. i actually feel sad for 'jayjay1306'
It's a good thing we all share the same conclusion about your whole story:
"Totally embarrasing"
Mr Darkstar
Registered User
Ahh well thats not what ive heard.
All i know is that you can edit more, in terms of gameplay i have heard it is steps behind.
And as for yourself basing the game on the demo.
That is not a good idea it is nothing like the full game.
THRILLA_CFC
Registered User
I really dont know whats ur prob but i dont think this site is for u mate. U sound like a 10 year old, always bitching and moaning. Everybody's got there own opinion but the ones u've got i think u should keep to urself. I cant c ur point, before the release of 2010 u have been slating it and now it's released u still choose to annoy us with ur crap. I am very pleased with this years instalment, its definately an improvement and thats whats we all want to c. Roll on Pes 2011.
colwell1888
Registered User
Let us all know when your football game is out and we'll see how realistic it is :happy:
THRILLA_CFC
Registered User
Grow up bruv and stop acting like a PUSSY. Who r u to come on a PES FAN site and disrespecting everybody that likes PES. I bet u can only express ur anger online. lol. I can tell u this much, ur only showing people how immature u r or u may be just an Asshole. The reason for this post is because i feel offended to know some prick like u can be allowed to say :What is it about PES2010 that attracts pre pubecent kids with downsyndrome. I think u should be Banned for life.
Mr Darkstar
Registered User
LO Fucking L!
He's right though.
Let me tell you - theres nothing wrong with Fifas gameplay. Its the MM thats sorely let people down. At least they have a playable game there, which is something. Pes hasnt even got that unfortunately. Ive never played such a rigid, cheating game in my life.
As ive said Theres nothing wrong with the method its the execution thats poor.
It doesnt let you play the way you want to, it makes you play the way it wants too, theres a massive difference.
Players dont move off the ball intelligently, the cpu can catch even the fastest player with the ball even with the slowest players. the cpu DOES STUFF FOR YOU. Dear me, when i hit a shot and the keeper saved it the cpu scored the rebound for me!!! When i changed the cursor to unassisted it started passing and tackling for me.
Thats not realism, its a sham.
Theres no big depth here, its not about mastering a deep complex game. Its about finding a work around the rules put in place by the developers to make the game work, rather than making an innovative system that plays a balanced game.
No team should be able to continually knock around one touch passes around the back on pro difficulty unless you are playing Barca, not Paok.
And why cant you dribble? Why cant you do skill? Why cant i pass it beyond one of my players too another? Why are my crosses random, sometimes deep and high and sometimes whipped in? I am not in control here, the computer is. Same with shots, all completely random, not directed by me at all.
Read this from Edge magazine, 100% spot on.
"A scan of Metacritic reveals the intersecting fortunes of Pro Evolution Soccer and its long-term rival, FIFA. Plot the scores on a graph (to fill a rainy afternoon) and the spidery 'X' that emerges tracks FIFA's recent revival against PES's unexpected decline. And the trend continues. FIFA 10 (reviewed in E207) has taken a confident step forward with the introduction of 360-degree dribbling and a swathe of new animations and gameplay tweaks, and PES 2010's response is unconvincing.
The bottom line is that when measured against the fluidity and possiblilty of FIFA, PES 2010 comes up short. It answers FIFA 10's introduction of 360-degree movement with an expanded dribbling system of its own, but as the game's producer, Shingo 'Seabass' Takatsuka, has admitted, this feature was brought forward to the current game only following the announcement of FIFA's innovation. Konami's game doesn't offer full rotation, with players still noticeably locking into rigid paths as they turn-there are now simply 16 of these rather then eight.
A bigger issue is the relationship between ball and the player, which is stretched by this new development. Extra touches are taken as players move around the ball - an odd double-touch animation has been introduced - and as they turn through the less familiar running angles the ball has a tendency to drift unnaturally to the side. The result is that passing and working attacks through the midfield feels mechanical rather than fun.
It feels like an ageing engine pushed too far - an upgrade too many for a system that needs revolutionary rebuilding. Where FIFA is robust enough to present a physically independent ball to 22 free-running players and let football happen (or, crucially, is good enough to at least convince us that's what's happening), PES is still openly pulling strings and cranking levers. When chasing though balls players will frequently refuse to run or, worse, stuter ridiculously in and out of their sprint animation in order to arrive at what the game deems the right time. We've also seen defenders shunted impossibly sideways when charging down shots and goalkeepers still palming tame shots into the path of onrushing strikers.
Through all this there are frequent eruptions of what once made the game so great. Beating a man with the ball - cutting past a defender on the wing or on the edge of the box - is still enormously gratifying, and more a matter of skill and timing than FIFA's less precise 'do a trick and floor it' approach. And while the passing is slightly automated, this lends a clipped satisfaction - there's something gratifying about creating neat triangles and breaking down defences with angles through balls.
But it also means you never shake off the looming awareness that this is a game of football, an increasingly predictable set of football-like things with patterns and rules and limitations. Where FIFA has pulled together a sophisticated system of autonomous physics and AI that give unprecedented variation and a exceptional illusion of organic play, PES 2010 might still be proficient, but it's robotic and methodical, and firmly in second place. [7]"
er..maybe he was a Pes fan whose fed up with the guff they are churning out? if he didnt give a toss he wouldnt post in the first instance.
Let me tell you - theres nothing wrong with Fifas gameplay. Its the MM thats sorely let people down. At least they have a playable game there, which is something. Pes hasnt even got that unfortunately. Ive never played such a rigid, cheating game in my life.
As ive said Theres nothing wrong with the method its the execution thats poor.
It doesnt let you play the way you want to, it makes you play the way it wants too, theres a massive difference.
Players dont move off the ball intelligently, the cpu can catch even the fastest player with the ball even with the slowest players. the cpu DOES STUFF FOR YOU. Dear me, when i hit a shot and the keeper saved it the cpu scored the rebound for me!!! When i changed the cursor to unassisted it started passing and tackling for me.
Thats not realism, its a sham.
Theres no big depth here, its not about mastering a deep complex game. Its about finding a work around the rules put in place by the developers to make the game work, rather than making an innovative system that plays a balanced game.
No team should be able to continually knock around one touch passes around the back on pro difficulty unless you are playing Barca, not Paok.
And why cant you dribble? Why cant you do skill? Why cant i pass it beyond one of my players too another? Why are my crosses random, sometimes deep and high and sometimes whipped in? I am not in control here, the computer is. Same with shots, all completely random, not directed by me at all.
Read this from Edge magazine, 100% spot on.
"A scan of Metacritic reveals the intersecting fortunes of Pro Evolution Soccer and its long-term rival, FIFA. Plot the scores on a graph (to fill a rainy afternoon) and the spidery 'X' that emerges tracks FIFA's recent revival against PES's unexpected decline. And the trend continues. FIFA 10 (reviewed in E207) has taken a confident step forward with the introduction of 360-degree dribbling and a swathe of new animations and gameplay tweaks, and PES 2010's response is unconvincing.
The bottom line is that when measured against the fluidity and possiblilty of FIFA, PES 2010 comes up short. It answers FIFA 10's introduction of 360-degree movement with an expanded dribbling system of its own, but as the game's producer, Shingo 'Seabass' Takatsuka, has admitted, this feature was brought forward to the current game only following the announcement of FIFA's innovation. Konami's game doesn't offer full rotation, with players still noticeably locking into rigid paths as they turn-there are now simply 16 of these rather then eight.
A bigger issue is the relationship between ball and the player, which is stretched by this new development. Extra touches are taken as players move around the ball - an odd double-touch animation has been introduced - and as they turn through the less familiar running angles the ball has a tendency to drift unnaturally to the side. The result is that passing and working attacks through the midfield feels mechanical rather than fun.
It feels like an ageing engine pushed too far - an upgrade too many for a system that needs revolutionary rebuilding. Where FIFA is robust enough to present a physically independent ball to 22 free-running players and let football happen (or, crucially, is good enough to at least convince us that's what's happening), PES is still openly pulling strings and cranking levers. When chasing though balls players will frequently refuse to run or, worse, stuter ridiculously in and out of their sprint animation in order to arrive at what the game deems the right time. We've also seen defenders shunted impossibly sideways when charging down shots and goalkeepers still palming tame shots into the path of onrushing strikers.
Through all this there are frequent eruptions of what once made the game so great. Beating a man with the ball - cutting past a defender on the wing or on the edge of the box - is still enormously gratifying, and more a matter of skill and timing than FIFA's less precise 'do a trick and floor it' approach. And while the passing is slightly automated, this lends a clipped satisfaction - there's something gratifying about creating neat triangles and breaking down defences with angles through balls.
But it also means you never shake off the looming awareness that this is a game of football, an increasingly predictable set of football-like things with patterns and rules and limitations. Where FIFA has pulled together a sophisticated system of autonomous physics and AI that give unprecedented variation and a exceptional illusion of organic play, PES 2010 might still be proficient, but it's robotic and methodical, and firmly in second place. [7]"
er..maybe he was a Pes fan whose fed up with the guff they are churning out? if he didnt give a toss he wouldnt post in the first instance.
Tech_Skill
Registered User
Banned for life, because youve got downs????.... you make no sense.
Do me favour, take your wheelchair or one of them 'mario Kart' style trolley's you use to go down the shops, park it outside your local curry's, watch a few mins of football, then come back and tell me its anything like pes2010.
shaun7
Registered User
Everyone please respect each other. We are not going anywhere with insults.
If tech thinks that it's a tragic year, it's his opinion, but tech respect those who think pes 10 is good also. This thread is going nowhere if it continues like this. It's better if we discus their flaws.
If tech thinks that it's a tragic year, it's his opinion, but tech respect those who think pes 10 is good also. This thread is going nowhere if it continues like this. It's better if we discus their flaws.
Tech_Skill
Registered User
Its a classic thread, fuck it, about fucking time this place got lively again, even if its being populated by more brain dead goons then house of the dead.
colwell1888
Registered User
Mate, I thought this was a genuine thread about the game, but it's just descended into cheap insults. Do you want people to actually listen or just automatically assume your a prick without listening? I genuinely think it's the best PES yet, but I understand a good number of your points. But really, why be a fud?
Tech_Skill
Registered User
Make my day, tell me what is realstic about pes2010's gameplay, especially the speed and movement and how it is anything like a real life game of football.
Im waiting............
colwell1888
Registered User
1) Players have two legs.
2) They use a football.
3) The ball goes out for throw-ins.
Want me to continue?
Seriously mate, I'd be wasting my breathe. The way you're acting I don't think we could convince you that grass was green. Like I said, show us a more realistic football game.
Tech_Skill
Registered User
Ermmm, so you couldnt convincingly answer my question, so now you have 2 options.
1) Fucking blend into the scenery and stay quiet
2) Flame.
I would advise you to take the 1st option.
Thanks again.
PS. fifa 10 is bugged to fuck, but its still more realistic imo.
I don't think you are well son:shocking: