What features would you like to see implemented in PES 2010 masterleague?

[dolcem]

The only two things I significantly care about for an upcoming ML (and for PES in general, I only play it for the ML) are:

1. Better and more realistic league system with more teams and leagues.

2. Youth team stuff: no more reincarnation of retired players, I want to see purely CPU generated players start with the youth teams (a very basic youth team system would be nice) and work their way up. Except please make it realistic, ie their names, appearances, talent, and playing style is representative of the country their from. That means no Brazilian style super-creative English players, etc. It also was kind of annoying in other games when hair styles didn't correspond properly with the players' races (not that I'm racist, it's just unrealistic when most of the black or Asian players have naturally blond or brown or red hair). Just as long as the CPU produced players are believable, that's all.

Anyways, the CPU generation youth players is the market of a true 'franchise' mode in a sports video game, and all major American sports games have had it since the 90s. Yes with football it's more complicated due to its global nature, but come on now, we're almost to the second decade of the new milenium, this is old technology.

Also ML is much worse if the editing is bad. The editing was awful and much more restrictive than it has ever been in the past, and this hurts ML the most. Just giving us the freedom we previously had with editing would make the ML much better.

Does anyone see any of these changes happening within the near future or am I just a dreamer?

 

[muzza798]

I think the ML is ok but needs additions. Personally what i'd want is:

- Memorial match back to get me addicted to playing ML matches

- AI improvements to make the games better

- Youth acadamy for each club

- Real money

- Sponsors

- Upgradable stadia

 

[Steev09]

A real nice touch would be the ability to select the number of teams in each league, would make it a lot more realistic in terms of dividing out the teams, for example instead of having 4 leagues of 20, we could choose 5 leagues of 16, or even 4 leagues with 2 divisions of 10, would wipe out the problem of random Dutch teams playing in the England league, as well as add to the playability for those who prefer shorter seasons.

 

[MysteryMan]

Champions league
Euro and World cup ( You choose your player at the start and play for ur country, just that you don't control only one player but the whole team. )

 

[aoAaron]

you guys know none of this will happen right?

i doubt konami have ANY intention of implicating intentive management mode options into ML because they cba.

honestly i think they should try and make a deal with SI games just to be able to use their player stats and a few of their options such as transfer engine/team management screens.

right now too much loading between just opening a shortlist and no where near enough players to choose from.

 

[martyl2]

Having read today's interfering with play Dan raises some important points regarding new features in the masterleague.

I suppose it is unrealistic for PES to become more like footy manager. In PES its all about playing the actual game of football not getting bogged down in menu's and different options.

Yet more subtle changes should be introduced, perhaps bring back the free training mode, possible interaction with the media? Although it may sound like I am contradicting myself I just think simple additions like this, even if the media option has a footie manager element in it, will add more depth and immersion into the game!

 

[Steev09]

Fixed AI, What I mean is that instead of having the option to play the game on a specific level, certian teams should be allocated a default difficulty, i.e. Man Utd, Barca and AC Milan top player, and at the other end of the scale the likes of AIK, Cluj and Bolton should be the lowest. Maybe this could be a feature only in ML mode or optional in other areas, Havent put a lot of though into how it would actually work in a practical sense, obviously players who are better at the game may not like the idea of playing a team on a low AI setting, or maybe the chance to rack up some goal difference would be welcomed, I do think though they would require at least a couple of higher settings, where the threat of a real hammering away at Camp Nou is a real possibility.

 

[Red Owl]

Fixed AI, What I mean is that instead of having the option to play the game on a specific level, certian teams should be allocated a default difficulty, i.e. Man Utd, Barca and AC Milan top player, and at the other end of the scale the likes of AIK, Cluj and Bolton should be the lowest. Maybe this could be a feature only in ML mode or optional in other areas, Havent put a lot of though into how it would actually work in a practical sense, obviously players who are better at the game may not like the idea of playing a team on a low AI setting, or maybe the chance to rack up some goal difference would be welcomed, I do think though they would require at least a couple of higher settings, where the threat of a real hammering away at Camp Nou is a real possibility.

That's really interesting - because at the moment, I think that the COM plays a certain way, depending on their difficulty level, and the quality of the players determines how well it's executed.

What I would say, to make your idea a possibility, is (in true abstract Konami style) add in a bunch of managers (since they appear when you win a cup, there's nothing stopping them having a bit more input into the game). There, the very best of them, say for example whoever staerts at Man U and Barcalona (I don't suggest they should have real managers, at least not yet) are deemed to be the best managers. When you play these teams, the difficulty is Top Player, and it works so on with the other teams, down to the weaker managers on Regular. Then, the managers are interchangable with the clubs (which would tie in with others calls for you to be able to move club), so that it would not just be the 'Top Player' teams who stay top, but maybe who have the better managers, AND players.

Then, what I would say to further substantiate this, would be to add in at least one, preferrably two, hugher difficulty levels (something I thing PES really needs anyway). So you have levels 1-7 (7 being highest). But on Master League, you could only choose from 1-5. But with each level, you actually are facing three different levels. So if you chose the lowest, level 1, you'd in reality be facing teams with a difficulty of 1, 2 and 3. And if you chose level 2, you'd face difficulties 2, 3 and 4, and so on.

So the hardest you could face would be Level 5, where you had difficulties 5, 6 and 7. And what Konami could do, is make difficulty 7 (or maybe 6 as well) only available on Master League (and maybe BaL and League & Cup mode) so you couldn't perfect it by playing difficulty 7 exhibition matches.

Sorry if this is all a bit incoherant and tangental, but I kept thinking of ideas as I was typing, and I really like your idea, and I am a bit hyper after staying up all night reading A Murder Is Announced (and, just for the record, I bloody solved it perfectly, with no mistaken guesses, for the first time out of over 70 or so Agatha Christie books...)

 

[JoeH]

I think that Konami should introduce stadium/away game difficulty.

Obviously specific to some teams only because various teams use the same stadium.

So if you had to go and play at Old Trafford vs Manchester United, it should be a lot harder to retain possesion and soak up pressure because they fear of playing there plus so many home supporters.

But if you had Manchester United visiting, obviously they're still going to be a tough opponent, but it wouldn't be as hard to break them down.

This wouldn't have to be master league specific, it could apply in cup and league mode too. But I can't see a way it would apply in exhibition especially in multi-player.

Also bad decisions in this theory could be a good add. Maybe 1 in 3 decisions goes against you for realism. Penalty claims waved away at Old Trafford due to imense pressure by fans and players as well as the media. Even though it was a clear penalty.

But say if for example, Middlesbrough were using Old Trafford due to the lack of The Riverside, the difficuly factor shouldn't really exist as they aren't nearly as hard to beat away as Manchester United, so it would have to be team-specific.

 

[MysteryMan]

The difficulty of play should be the more difficult the more smart and good the AI is in making choises and playing tactics etc... not by making the AI much faster than you.

 

[ginger08]

heres a few ideas that i think would make the master league better and more realistic.

-change points system to real money

-have a real calendar year for matches and instead of having the GO TO NEXT WEEK option change to GO TO NEXT DAY so you could have the option of say 2 training sessions in between each match to work on your players like you currently have at the end of the season, this would mean you can have a better influnence on how better your players get and you can work on areas that they are not good at (speed,passing,scoring etc)

-reserve team or youth team, with weekly reports on whos playing well

-fan/board confidence metre 0-100%...if it reaches 0% you get sacked...things that have a good effect say winning leagues,cups signing world class players etc...things that have bad effect losing alot,league position selling popular players etc... if its up around the 100% you can demand more money for players or the club rewards you for winning things with money

-chance to change to a different club instead of having to stay at the same one

-press conferances being able to pick a comment that will have a + or - affect on the team...having something like sky sports news (PES NEWS) having breaking news information (kaka hands in transfare request,ronaldo signs for madrid in world record transfare deal etc)that would bring a buzz to the game

-transfares(get rid of the stupid arrow thing)... if a club refuses your offer you should be given a reason(do not want to sell to rivals,offer too low etc) if player refuses contract state reason(club not big enough,wants more money etc)..option to put clauses & bonuses in player contracts(buy out clause ctc)(goal scoring,clean sheet,assist etc)...if your negotiating with a player you should see what he demands from the cub so you have an idea of what to offer...unhappy players from your own club should to able to put in transfare requests...option to loan your youth players or fringe players out...computer teams seem to do some unrealisic transfares too for example everton signed cesc,silva,joe cole in one close season and they were a team fighting relegation the season before thing like that dont really happen unless an arab takes over..option to state how much you value your top players this could scare off clubs bidding or making them offer over the odds.

-no more reincarnation of retired players

-realistic injuries...state injury & how long the player will be out of action

-more leagues they dont have to be licenced the editing option can fix this...at the very least the leagues below them (coca cola championship,seira b etc) should be included to avoild having teams from different countries in them.

-being able to edit manager apperance

-choosing the captain should have some affect on the team or moral for that matter, how about a leadership stat being put into every player or a star for special ability

-have goal flashes from other games at top of screen... if your losing an your league rivals are winning this would put added pressure on you to go all out for the win and would add a realistic feel instead of finding out at half time.

-sort out the stamina ratings players tire way too easy

-proper suspentions...1 for 5 yellows & 3 for straight red

- Sponsors...the more popular or successful your team gets real or fictional companys offer big money for advertising boards around the stadium.

- Upgradable stadia...amend ticket prices so the more popular or successful your team gets you can higher or lower them to affect how much money can be made.

 

[alonCFC]

heres a few ideas that i think would make the master league better and more realistic.

-change points system to real money

-have a real calendar year for matches and instead of having the GO TO NEXT WEEK option change to GO TO NEXT DAY so you could have the option of say 2 training sessions in between each match to work on your players like you currently have at the end of the season, this would mean you can have a better influnence on how better your players get and you can work on areas that they are not good at (speed,passing,scoring etc)

-reserve team or youth team, with weekly reports on whos playing well

-fan/board confidence metre 0-100%...if it reaches 0% you get sacked...things that have a good effect say winning leagues,cups signing world class players etc...things that have bad effect losing alot,league position selling popular players etc... if its up around the 100% you can demand more money for players or the club rewards you for winning things with money

-chance to change to a different club instead of having to stay at the same one

-press conferances being able to pick a comment that will have a + or - affect on the team...having something like sky sports news (PES NEWS) having breaking news information (kaka hands in transfare request,ronaldo signs for madrid in world record transfare deal etc)that would bring a buzz to the game

-transfares(get rid of the stupid arrow thing)... if a club refuses your offer you should be given a reason(do not want to sell to rivals,offer too low etc) if player refuses contract state reason(club not big enough,wants more money etc)..option to put clauses & bonuses in player contracts(buy out clause ctc)(goal scoring,clean sheet,assist etc)...if your negotiating with a player you should see what he demands from the cub so you have an idea of what to offer...unhappy players from your own club should to able to put in transfare requests...option to loan your youth players or fringe players out...computer teams seem to do some unrealisic transfares too for example everton signed cesc,silva,joe cole in one close season and they were a team fighting relegation the season before thing like that dont really happen unless an arab takes over..option to state how much you value your top players this could scare off clubs bidding or making them offer over the odds.

-no more reincarnation of retired players

-realistic injuries...state injury & how long the player will be out of action

-more leagues they dont have to be licenced the editing option can fix this...at the very least the leagues below them (coca cola championship,seira b etc) should be included to avoild having teams from different countries in them.

-being able to edit manager apperance

-choosing the captain should have some affect on the team or moral for that matter, how about a leadership stat being put into every player or a star for special ability

-have goal flashes from other games at top of screen... if your losing an your league rivals are winning this would put added pressure on you to go all out for the win and would add a realistic feel instead of finding out at half time.

-sort out the stamina ratings players tire way too easy

-proper suspentions...1 for 5 yellows & 3 for straight red

- Sponsors...the more popular or successful your team gets real or fictional companys offer big money for advertising boards around the stadium.

- Upgradable stadia...amend ticket prices so the more popular or successful your team gets you can higher or lower them to affect how much money can be made.

if in 1:1,000,000 chance this will be applied, one season would take you months to finish and it will get boring and suffistikated by no time.
also, some of your suggestions are way to complcated for KONAMI to make, like fans respect or youth team.

 

[dolcem]

Why can't they make the ML customizable? Like with a lot of these options you can choose if you have control over them or not?

The only thing I want to see is purely CPU generated youth players. I hate this reincarnation stuff. And it wouldn't be hard to implement at all, they've been doing it for over a decade in most sports games. Will this ever happen or am I just a dreamer?

 

[ginger08]

It Wouldnt Really Take Longer If It Was Done Day To Day Or Even Match Day To Training Day Because Like In The Close Season You Would Have Each Players Program More Or Less Set So You Just Hit Confirm Or Change The Different Areas You Want Players To Work On This Takes What About A Couple Of Min To Do.
How Is It Difficult To Set Up A Fan/board Metre We Use A Similar One Already With The Team Popularity (d,c,b,a,s).
Of Coarse A Youth Team Could Be Made Think About It The Computer Simulates The Scores In Other Cpu V Cpu Matches In The Master League Down To Even Who Scores The Goals For The Cpu Teams...so Why Not For A Youth Yeam,and Konami Are Using A Sort Of Feed Back Report On Players You Have On Your Transfare Targets List Dont They??so Again Why Not In A Youth Team.
Most Of Everyones Suggestions Can Be Done If Konami Got Their Finger Out,the Possibilities Are Endless With The Ps3 Or Xbox Machines,and To Be Honest They Need To Do Something To Improve Their Master League Cause Its All A Bit Out Dated Its The Same Every Year, I Have Won Everything And Built World Class Teams On The Highest Level In A Few Seasons And Stop Playing The Master League After A Few Months. I Reckon If It Took 1 Month To Finish A Whole Season With Some Of The Suggestions I Have Said People Would Rather That Then The Way It Currently Is Done.
Correct Me If Im Wrong But People Who Generally Play Pro And The Master League Are Football Fanitics Like My Self And Want The Game As Real As Possible, And Want To Be Playing The Current Pro And Getting The Most Out Of The Game Up Until The Next One Comes Out,which Sadly Hasn't Happened In Recent Years Down To Konami's Lack Of Effort Which Has Let Us People Who Love The Game Down, Too Many So Called Loyal Pro Fans I Have Known Have Turned To Fifa Because Of Konami's Lack Of ''evolution'' In The Master League Area

 

[alonCFC]

Why can't they make the ML customizable? Like with a lot of these options you can choose if you have control over them or not?

The only thing I want to see is purely CPU generated youth players. I hate this reincarnation stuff. And it wouldn't be hard to implement at all, they've been doing it for over a decade in most sports games. Will this ever happen or am I just a dreamer?

dont yo think that PES would run out of players? withourt reborn players, you could play 20 seasons and run out of players. i think reborn players are the only option KONAMI has.

 

[ginger08]

It Can Be Done

if in 1:1,000,000 chance this will be applied, one season would take you months to finish and it will get boring and suffistikated by no time.
also, some of your suggestions are way to complcated for KONAMI to make, like fans respect or youth team.

It Wouldnt Really Take Longer If It Was Done Day To Day Or Even Match Day To Training Day Because Like In The Close Season You Would Have Each Players Program More Or Less Set So You Just Hit Confirm Or Change The Different Areas You Want Players To Work On This Takes What About A Couple Of Min To Do.
How Is It Difficult To Set Up A Fan/board Metre We Use A Similar One Already With The Team Popularity (d,c,b,a,s).
Of Coarse A Youth Team Could Be Made Think About It The Computer Simulates The Scores In Other Cpu V Cpu Matches In The Master League Down To Even Who Scores The Goals For The Cpu Teams...so Why Not For A Youth Yeam,and Konami Are Using A Sort Of Feed Back Report On Players You Have On Your Transfare Targets List Dont They??so Again Why Not In A Youth Team.
Most Of Everyones Suggestions Can Be Done If Konami Got Their Finger Out,the Possibilities Are Endless With The Ps3 Or Xbox Machines,and To Be Honest They Need To Do Something To Improve Their Master League Cause Its All A Bit Out Dated Its The Same Every Year, I Have Won Everything And Built World Class Teams On The Highest Level In A Few Seasons And Stop Playing The Master League After A Few Months. I Reckon If It Took 1 Month To Finish A Whole Season With Some Of The Suggestions I Have Said People Would Rather That Then The Way It Currently Is Done.
Correct Me If Im Wrong But People Who Generally Play Pro And The Master League Are Football Fanitics Like My Self And Want The Game As Real As Possible, And Want To Be Playing The Current Pro And Getting The Most Out Of The Game Up Until The Next One Comes Out,which Sadly Hasn't Happened In Recent Years Down To Konami's Lack Of Effort Which Has Let Us People Who Love The Game Down, Too Many So Called Loyal Pro Fans I Have Known Have Turned To Fifa Because Of Konami's Lack Of ''evolution'' In The Master League Area

 

[ginger08]

Why Not??

dont Yo Think That Pes Would Run Out Of Players? Withourt Reborn Players, You Could Play 20 Seasons And Run Out Of Players. I Think Reborn Players Are The Only Option Konami Has.

Whats With The Negative Thinking Of Coarse Konami Can Get Rid Of The Reborn Players,think Of The Total Amount Of Players In All The Leagues In The Fifa Games And On Top Of That The Fictional Players That Are Added In The Season Modes, If It Can Be Done In Fifa Why Not In Pro, And How Many People Actually Play The Current Pro Master League For 20 Seasons

 

[alonCFC]

It Wouldnt Really Take Longer If It Was Done Day To Day Or Even Match Day To Training Day Because Like In The Close Season You Would Have Each Players Program More Or Less Set So You Just Hit Confirm Or Change The Different Areas You Want Players To Work On This Takes What About A Couple Of Min To Do.
How Is It Difficult To Set Up A Fan/board Metre We Use A Similar One Already With The Team Popularity (d,c,b,a,s).
Of Coarse A Youth Team Could Be Made Think About It The Computer Simulates The Scores In Other Cpu V Cpu Matches In The Master League Down To Even Who Scores The Goals For The Cpu Teams...so Why Not For A Youth Yeam,and Konami Are Using A Sort Of Feed Back Report On Players You Have On Your Transfare Targets List Dont They??so Again Why Not In A Youth Team.
Most Of Everyones Suggestions Can Be Done If Konami Got Their Finger Out,the Possibilities Are Endless With The Ps3 Or Xbox Machines,and To Be Honest They Need To Do Something To Improve Their Master League Cause Its All A Bit Out Dated Its The Same Every Year, I Have Won Everything And Built World Class Teams On The Highest Level In A Few Seasons And Stop Playing The Master League After A Few Months. I Reckon If It Took 1 Month To Finish A Whole Season With Some Of The Suggestions I Have Said People Would Rather That Then The Way It Currently Is Done.
Correct Me If Im Wrong But People Who Generally Play Pro And The Master League Are Football Fanitics Like My Self And Want The Game As Real As Possible, And Want To Be Playing The Current Pro And Getting The Most Out Of The Game Up Until The Next One Comes Out,which Sadly Hasn't Happened In Recent Years Down To Konami's Lack Of Effort Which Has Let Us People Who Love The Game Down, Too Many So Called Loyal Pro Fans I Have Known Have Turned To Fifa Because Of Konami's Lack Of ''evolution'' In The Master League Area

you do have a point that they could add fans respect, and its actually a good idea- increasing and deacrising by the teams position and records. the problem is not about the console harddisc or core, it is the creativity and hardworking mindes of KONAMI workers. you need massive AI -that hasnt been invented yet- to work these things out.

Whats With The Negative Thinking Of Coarse Konami Can Get Rid Of The Reborn Players,think Of The Total Amount Of Players In All The Leagues In The Fifa Games And On Top Of That The Fictional Players That Are Added In The Season Modes, If It Can Be Done In Fifa Why Not In Pro, And How Many People Actually Play The Current Pro Master League For 20 Seasons

i think that one of the points in ML is building a star team. with the option of geting rid of old players takes the fun out of it and you get the feeling of a boring team and unrealistic. also you cant base real football scouting and you need to start from scrach and search forplayers one-by-one.
the 20 season was just for the idea of running out of players.

 

[Red Owl]

Why can't they make the ML customizable? Like with a lot of these options you can choose if you have control over them or not?

The only thing I want to see is purely CPU generated youth players. I hate this reincarnation stuff. And it wouldn't be hard to implement at all, they've been doing it for over a decade in most sports games. Will this ever happen or am I just a dreamer?

They do it already, with Duffy and Rowland, etc. What's wrong with the reincarnation thing? The only thing that's bad about it that I can see is that you obviously know how good the player will turn out - I think they should combat this by makign competition to sign these players higher.

 

[saintric]

Feel so empty at the minute I have mentioned before I only play my ps2 patched version of pes 2008 as im not a next gen fan yet of pes! but i just won the champions league with Man city in my 3rd season it was perfect Hammann annoucend his retirment so i named him captain against Zenit St Petersburg in the final and in the 80's minute of a hard game I played a one to in mid and Hammann did an absolute rocket bar and in!!! won the game he lifted the cup just perfect

but now im not feeling another season after winning all there is to win this is where changing teams would be amazing so i could do it all again with a club in a diff league ect