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what have they done to our beautiful game

kevquigley

Registered User
Well ranted. The passing system is as you pointed out, riddled with problems. The shooting and tackling don't bother me in the least. But yeah the whole computer strikers goal hanging and your own strikers turning into midfielders is a joke.
 

KainLegacy

Registered User
THE CPU DOESNT CHEAT.Stop saying that,because its an excuse.
I didnt see the "inteligent runs" from my teammates?!They just stand there and move their legs away from the ball,BUT the defenders just cant wait to charge 3 at once at the corner flag and leave my peanlty area empty...also when you have a throw-in from the left the RMF comes to get the ball...I have no words.PES5 is better,despite its problems.As you can see,the tradition remains - all PES's with numbers 2,4,6,8 and so on will be crap and all with 3,5,7 and so on will fix the problems,thats a cheap way to get money from Konami.
I am not sure if you guys can feel it,but PES6 is build on PES4 engine,not PES5.Just try playing 4 then 6 and it feels very similiar.
 

Blueblood1873

New Member
Absolutely sick of the AI in this game, 9 out of ten times no matter what you do the ball ends up with the CPU, whether you tackle them, shoot or clear, it's all the same. My moniter has nearly been through the window on a nightly basis, it is such a frustrating game.

This skying the ball from a few yards out makes the game so unrealistic as well. Forwards being caught so easily by pathetic defenders from absolute shitehouses of teams is another point which needs to be addressed, it looks so silly especially when you look at the stats of these defenders.

The only things that have improved from 5 IMHO are the players don't fall like they have been hit by snipers as much, the fouling has improved you can use the movement better and the turning of players has slightly improved still sluggish but not like a ten tonne tank as in 5.

The difference with Pro Evo in the past was the feeling when you played the game that the realism was so much better than it's rivals, I find this no longer the case.
 

waylando

Registered User
The cpu DOES cheat. It really does, its not an excuse.

I try not to feel disapointed every time I sit down for a master league match. But i cant help it. Too many cheats. An all the flaws in here are real as well, because PES6 is a lazy updated game. You can even see the stupid PS1 dribbling of the cpu sometimes. Dont you hate to make a slide to take a ball, just to see your player float in the air a little bit and passing just milimeters away from the ball after that? That was too much for me yesterday.

FIFA07 is crap and nobody can deny, and thats why people is complaining about. There is no alternate game. I guess we are suposed to stick to this cheaty game until next year.
 

tobster

Registered User
the CPU definately cheats, when i play in multiplayer, players such as arjen robben, shaun wright-phillips and obefemi martins are lethal! yet as soon as you play in regular or above you find these players totally outpaced by defenders such as jay de merit,zat knight and sami hypia... no disrespect to those players but id love to see martins and de merit have a race!
 

Vegemietian

Registered User
lol at all the people wanting it to be as realistic as possible. I dont want a game to be more realistic than it is fun? You want realistic - how about Konami force you to do training for 90 minutes twice before every game you play.....

I want to enjoy myself playing a game, and if in 20 minutes I can only create 4 decent chances, I dont want to see my 30 million a year striker sky the ball over the crossbar from 6 yards out. God this game is frustrating,

Gotta love how when you go to harder modes all of a sudden every CPU player can run quicker than your players no matter what the speed stats say.... Dont you just love it how when you have the ball the CPU players only have to be running alongside your player for 1 second before you are nudged out the way and they steal it, but when the CPU player has the ball I could run the length of the wing trying to nudge him off but the bastard wont ever lose his balance!!

Maybe my favourite part is how the CPU players have the best anticipation in the world and always pounce on the loose ball first, when my AI players stand there looking at a ball 3 feet away but refuse to move...

Fuck this game is pissing me off. Ive already destroyed a set of headphones over this shit. If you want realism get off your arse and go and train down at your local soccer club. I want an enjoyable experience, not this shit
 

KainLegacy

Registered User
lol at all the people wanting it to be as realistic as possible. I dont want a game to be more realistic than it is fun? You want realistic - how about Konami force you to do training for 90 minutes twice before every game you play.....

I want to enjoy myself playing a game, and if in 20 minutes I can only create 4 decent chances, I dont want to see my 30 million a year striker sky the ball over the crossbar from 6 yards out. God this game is frustrating,

Gotta love how when you go to harder modes all of a sudden every CPU player can run quicker than your players no matter what the speed stats say.... Dont you just love it how when you have the ball the CPU players only have to be running alongside your player for 1 second before you are nudged out the way and they steal it, but when the CPU player has the ball I could run the length of the wing trying to nudge him off but the bastard wont ever lose his balance!!

Maybe my favourite part is how the CPU players have the best anticipation in the world and always pounce on the loose ball first, when my AI players stand there looking at a ball 3 feet away but refuse to move...

Fuck this game is pissing me off. Ive already destroyed a set of headphones over this shit. If you want realism get off your arse and go and train down at your local soccer club. I want an enjoyable experience, not this shit

First,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
Well,sorry,but NO ONE SAID PES6 IS REALISTIC!!!For all the problems youve said,yes,they should be removed,because THEY ARE NOT REALISTIC.Players should run with their correct speed,players should lose balance,players with good reaction should react faster to loose balls,BECAUSE ITS REALISTIC,NOT BECAUSE ITS FUN.I am pissed with PES6,its soooooooo ridicolous to have 30(15) shots ant the opponent to have 28(12) or something like that and the scoreline to be 1-0...its should be 8-6 if you ask me,but the shooting sucks and the defending also.The max shots per game sohuld be 15 and thats when you play Brazil against Paraguay.They made it so arcade!If you get 1 on 1 with the keeper in real life its around 70% chance to score,so strikers are rarely left wihtout cover,but in PES you can run across the whole field and score,I wont play this game,I hope PES7 will be made properly.More realism is more fun,belive me.About the 90 mins training - no,not that much,just on the integral gameplay parts.And I do play real football...
 

Cry Havoc

Registered User
You guys claim to want realism, then cry and whine when the passing isn't like PE5, which was 100% accurate and exact.

Because that's realistic? Pardon me, but I don't know of any footballer in the world who makes deft passes all day long, to say nothing of the D2 scrubs you start a master league with.

Realistic passing means that sometimes when you mash the pass button it's not going to go exactly where you want it to. A lot of the time I feel like I'm cheating because with class players you can easily pass it through a defense without a problem. Yet even with a team of Rooney's I don't expect my passes to be spot on all the time. It's called the beautiful game, not the perfect game. When you mash a button and your player doesn't perform a 100% perfect placement, that's a reflection of reality.

As far as the shooting goes, I hold R2 when I shoot and if I'm in close with an open net, it goes in almost every time. Almost. Which is perfectly accurate in my opinion. Perhaps the most unrealistic thing about the entire game is how dominant some players are, like Rooney after 5 or 6 years, he's absolutely assured a hat trick in almost every match, but that's because you're playing a flawed computer that can only perform a limited number of defense computations to stop you.

I play on 6*, and the competition when I'm playing with average to solid players is excellent. Only when I field a full team of players over 90 does the game start to feel too easy. It's odd that some people say that their players never anticipate and the computer always gets the ball, because I find the opposite is true -- my team absolutely decimates control of the match, unless I'm playing an elite team.

The only real gripe I have (and it's been mentioned in this thread) is that some of the speedier players seem to be slowed a bit when playing the computer. That being said, I find that Dagaka or Rooney can still outpace the defense most of the way up the field, unless they are being pursued by another great player.

The biggest change I made was learning to use R2 in combination with my shot. Now I never take a shot from 10m in without it, and usually out to about 18 it can be quite clever.

Don't spout off at a game just because it's a challenge. That's no way to be.
 

EQ.

Registered User
HAHAHAHA for theplayers taht say the com players have faster "anticipation" try using err hmm SUPER CANCEL. Where you DONT rely on the the com to control your player YOU take control your problems will be eased. ALso with passing Come to the ball dont wait for it to come to you ala SUPER CANCEL. works wonders and i thought the com players cheated when a slower defender cuaght up with burchet 90=speed BUT his dribble speed is much slower so with the ball at his feet he moves like 77 speed so that showed me it wasnt a cheat he just isnot fast with the ball. I can nugde the com players off the ball ala SUPER CANCEL. I play top player with very hard negotiations with the defualt ml players.

About shooting yes it harder to get a accurate shot. The gauge moves much faster in my opinion. still as mentioned above r2(controlled shot) helps alot shooting with your dominate foot helps too.

i do have gripes corners for example i dont like the freaking view i liked the view last year much better i was playing winning eleven 9 so i dont know if its different from pro evo 5. BUt pro evo 6 the corner view sucks ass you can hardly see your defenders until the ball is right in front of goal gotta be fast. at least they dont change me from the man i have but i have had the com scored alot on corners just becuase the view and i have no time to react.

The key here is MICROmanagment of your forces. Using manual strat. Controlling the att\def attitude of your players. and of course the all mighty SUPER CANCEL.
 

hazman79

Registered User
lol at all the people wanting it to be as realistic as possible. I dont want a game to be more realistic than it is fun? You want realistic - how about Konami force you to do training for 90 minutes twice before every game you play.....

Gotta love how when you go to harder modes all of a sudden every CPU player can run quicker than your players no matter what the speed stats say....

Maybe my favourite part is how the CPU players have the best anticipation in the world and always pounce on the loose ball first, when my AI players stand there looking at a ball 3 feet away but refuse to move...
Erm... Thought you didn't want realism?

Surely you'd prefer MORE realism to remove these last two elements of the game?

Personally I've found each version since 3 progressivly more interfearing or 'scripted' if you like. Cup games for example; it doesn't matter who is playing who at Semi final stage the CPU has already decided that the game will be really close and in all likelyhood if you are winning will score a goal to take the tie into extra time ((a more fitting conclusion to a Semi final cup game (it thinks)). Fucking bollocks, if the opo is shit, the opo is shit I don't care about the game going into extra time / pens cus the CPU thinks it will be more 'exciting' for me. Wigan V Man U in the cup last year, Man U took the piss in that game and rightly so.

I know this is a bit random but does anyone else have a problem with the chip / lob shot? Its probably cus I've been too lazy to practice this but I'm shit at it since PES2 / 3 I think. I usually just slot it under the keeps or faint or go round when I'm one on one, but the chip does look good.
 
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