Why do i keep losing these days

[KONAMISAN]

I mean , i used to be a good player in PES 2010 , but in PES 2011 , i have no good strategies in the game , its like i have lost all my skills , the opponent keeps exploiting my field holes , and am playing randomly.
Please give me some tips to build a nice strategie and get back to glorie days

 

[TheDubs]

Every game has a characteristic i find. Pes 2009's characteristic was running. You could decimate your opponents defence with a fast player. Not even a high dribbling stated player, a fast one. Ahh the torture playing Barcelona with Messi and Usain Bol.. oh sorry Samuel Eto'o! Pes 2010 was fairly similar in that sense.


Pes 2011's characteristic is passing. Its like it was created by Iniesta and Xavi on a spare day, and i say spare day as they forgot to patch a few glitchs - but its altogether a very balanced game.

The thing i find is you are rewarded for passing. If you pass the ball forward, your computers AI on your team reacts by making your players run lines. For example, if you pass the ball down the pitch, till your about 10 yards outside the opponents box, the computer will make one of your players start running a line towards the opponents defence. This is your initiative to do a through ball, which they will latch onto a bury in the back of the net.

So basically its about passing, working with the AI and looking for little iniatives the AI gives you like i just mentioned. Once you do that you can beat the likes of Barcelona with Sunderland. It doesnt take that much time at all, just the patience not to break the disc or message barcelona users after games explaining why they're .. :realmad:

 

[KONAMISAN]

Yeah , thanks for the tips man , I'll try to develop my passing skills.
Just one more thing , when am attacking and after i am counter-attacked my defense live becomes empty , i know its normal as am getting back from attack to defense mode , but how can i keep my defense line together even during the attack ????

 

[Timbone]

Yeah , thanks for the tips man , I'll try to develop my passing skills.
Just one more thing , when am attacking and after i am counter-attacked my defense live becomes empty , i know its normal as am getting back from attack to defense mode , but how can i keep my defense line together even during the attack ????

I am no expert but I know this some defenders seem to go forward. You need to check your strategies. Also what is the defense on your midfielders. If you use possible CF and SSs as midfielders they wont track back and defend

 

[muscularmatt]

It is harder to get the balance right in this one, which is good. From a tactical point of view, all the previous PES games have been way too easy.

Just play to your strengths. Figure out what you were good at, and try and translate that into the new settings. Did you keep a compact formation and short pass alot like me? Then shorten your support range and make the team more compact. Or were you more direct? There are lots of things you can try.

 

[S-D-P]

@op

You may be suffering from a bout of pesitus(where everything goes to shit) stay calm and keep your finger off the sprint button

 

[Makavelian]

keep your finger off the sprint button

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[Timbone]

Any of you guys know how to jockey?

 

[waywardcloud]

Any of you guys know how to jockey?

R2 dude.
also u have three options for pressuring, x, towards opponents goal + x, towards your goal + x. so there is some depth to defending. hopefully in 2012 they ll improve some subtleties but its a good system.

 

[KONAMISAN]

I actually started to improve my gameplay by manipulating the tactics .
But when i play on ML th game becomes slow.
Any other suggestions are welcomed guys .

 

[Makavelian]

Forget tactics first of all and tricks. just master the game using shit players. If you are good at other pes's you should have all the more advanced moves down for maintaining possession/ gaining that extra yard etc.
Just stay patient not always playing forward up the pitch all the time . Get multiple runner of the ball rather than what most idiots do get 1 player to run of the ball then try and time a through ball all the time,what is bread and butter defending for any half decent player.
Mix it up , get multiple runners off then just mix your game up through ball's backwards is my fave for bringing players up the pitch with momentum .I think it is also crucial to learn the through ball in any situation on the pitch so your not playing dead passes around your team. Very rarely people use the through ball in there own half for square passes etc..Big thing in this game is body balance keeping your opponent out of reach of the ball,getting your body in front of the ball.

Forget all these shit tricks ,the best trick for skinning your man is a simple drop of the shoulder done by a quick flick of the analogue sticks in alternative directions.Best move for coming at an angle on goal when you have 1 defender too beat.
For defending always have a player covering mainly for anticipating through ball's but also to cut that easy pass out by tracking players while using the pressure button.If you ever play a good player you will feel like your players are being pressured less because good players are just focusing on organizing there players cutting out the obvious balls.When you play this type of player you need to hold on too the ball more waiting for your opponent to get close before passing , dribble is usually more effective because they are usually second guessing your next pass so there sending the A.I to tackle .

 

[dazzaanderton]

I cannot buy a win at the minute and I can't understand it. I have now only won 2 of a about the last 20 games wheras before that I won more games than I lost.

My problem is I keep wasting chances and i'm not really sure on any particular strategy. It seems that other players spend alot of time sorting out their team before a game but i'm not sure what tactics work best in online games.

I cannot tell you the frustration of losing game after game when often dominating possesion and the shot count.

 

[Timbone]

I cannot buy a win at the minute and I can't understand it. I have now only won 2 of a about the last 20 games wheras before that I won more games than I lost.

My problem is I keep wasting chances and i'm not really sure on any particular strategy. It seems that other players spend alot of time sorting out their team before a game but i'm not sure what tactics work best in online games.

I cannot tell you the frustration of losing game after game when often dominating possesion and the shot count.

Check the arrows to see the player's form
Upward directions is good
Downward directions bad

This is also very useful in coach mode as players that are not in form dont shoot or make runs
I was told that a player in form has his stats improved and maybe vice versa

 

[Timbone]

R2 dude.
also u have three options for pressuring, x, towards opponents goal + x, towards your goal + x. so there is some depth to defending. hopefully in 2012 they ll improve some subtleties but its a good system.

Thanks a lot, I am on PC so I will have to figure it out since the controls dont really match

 

[Lolastian]

Check the arrows to see the player's form
Upward directions is good
Downward directions bad

This is also very useful in coach mode as players that are not in form dont shoot or make runs
I was told that a player in form has his stats improved and maybe vice versa

if you have the red arrow up your stats are from 6 to 12 % higher than normal.
As said: Vice versa when arrow down

 

[Timbone]

if you have the red arrow up your stats are from 6 to 12 % higher than normal.
As said: Vice versa when arrow down

Thanks a lot, it explains why I lose to the same team I had beat 2-0 previously in Coach mode. I am currently buying cheap players with special abilities like Mazing run, but for my attack, I will stick to pace not less than 80, I tried Abreu but I cant use him when I am playing myself, I play a possession game and players with stamina help to make it work

 

[Sminky]

Look to buy players with 7 for condition, it makes a huge difference - as does a high team work rating.

 

[Timbone]

Look to buy players with 7 for condition, it makes a huge difference - as does a high team work rating.

I am doing it that now, but I dont want to get Kuyt or players that everyone has

this is my current team

Gyan

Elia Karagounis Affellay Piatti(He is too shot but Tamada isnt good enough)

Hargreaves


Taiwo(maybe I should get an Early Crosser)
Booth(200cm tall)
Lovren
Hubasque (cheap with 90 speed and 80 stamina)
GK Pantmillion(200cm but is useless will get a cheaper GK)
I dont get how He can have a ball lobbed over his head from outside the box when he is practically on the goal line(maybe its a glitch)

Bench
Belasie
Odemwingie
Simaeys
Bryan Ruiz(Great shot accuracy and dribbler)
I had Jussie but he wasted so many chances for me while playing AM

I am thinking of getting Menez or Dos Santos to Compliment Affellay since Karagounis is more of a Deep lying playermaker.
I dont want to get Pastore again since I used him before
I had a Jonathan who plays AMF and is a Classic No 10 but he doesnt help to defend at all lol. I am just filling up my bench with cheap players with skills.

One question does a player like Agbonlahor who goes from a 78 to an 84 when playing as a winger improve ? It sounds stupid but can I See the stats improve?

 

[Lolastian]

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I cannot tell you the frustration of losing game after game when often dominating possesion and the shot count.

Mayby try in Training Mode how to Win those 1on1 situations against the gk.
You have (related From pes 6) 9 different options for the direction of your Shot.
Maybe try some shots without direction then Test all the combonations of the d pad. Back(pointing at your Goal) is good for distance shots for example.
By Time you Develop à Feeling, when to Press which Button/direction


//(sorry for autocorrect..)

 

[frenkie]

I also miss many chances... check this...i score only 5 goals :lol: