Yellow card spamming and general refereeing

[rebelinho]

I'm now playing on PC in Superstar level, but this happens in Pro and Top Player too. I don't know about the other difficulty levels.

95% of the faults are given a yellow card. Most of them is when I run towards a player who has just received the ball, in the attempt to take it from him. More often than not it ends well, but in the few times I hit the other player that small contact makes the referee crazy. Last season I got 3 red cards from such faults.

Does this happen on other platforms too? Have you noticed it? Any future patches to correct this?

And regarding refereeing as a whole: there isn't such thing as faults given to you. The AI might make them, but the match will not be interrupted. A specific thing that isn't as bad as before, but yet happens, is when you shoot inside the box, and a defender near you tries to reach the ball with a sliding tackle, which ends up taking your player. This of course is a penalty, but it is never awarded.

Any thoughts?

 

[ilragno70]

same things in Medium level on Ps3. Bad refereeing AI. The cpu team make fault inside the penalty area but often the referee don't rule penalty. Absurdity by Konami!!! In more than 150 matches I have 3 penalty kicks for my team in Master League...

 

[Ali]

Basically, I've found that any foul where your player sticks out his leg results in a yellow card.

What's also annoying about the refereeing is that no fouls for off the ball incidents are given. There's also instances where (for example) you win the ball off an opponent, he falls to the ground, and as a result he takes you out when you're about to take possession.... no foul given. Officiating is horrendous on the whole.

While I'm here, I might as well talk about offsides. Bullshit they are. If your player is level.... he's offside. Hell, if you're player is ahead of the last defender on virtue of having a bigger dick, he's offside! There's no leeway whatsoever. Advantage is never given to the attacker.

 

[Parkinfed]

Correct me if I am wrong here, but refereeing was shite last year around as well, wasn't it? maybe they haven't got it sorted out on the new engine yet because in PES 2013 refreeing was allright...

 

[rebelinho]

Basically, I've found that any foul where your player sticks out his leg results in a yellow card.

What's also annoying about the refereeing is that no fouls for off the ball incidents are given. There's also instances where (for example) you win the ball off an opponent, he falls to the ground, and as a result he takes you out when you're about to take possession.... no foul given. Officiating is horrendous on the whole.

While I'm here, I might as well talk about offsides. Bullshit they are. If your player is level.... he's offside. Hell, if you're player is ahead of the last defender on virtue of having a bigger dick, he's offside! There's no leeway whatsoever. Advantage is never given to the attacker.

This. Just this. I love this game, but there is some shit that really, really makes me wanna install PES6 again.

Correct me if I am wrong here, but refereeing was shite last year around as well, wasn't it? maybe they haven't got it sorted out on the new engine yet because in PES 2013 refreeing was allright...

I never touched PES2014, so I can't say much about it. But don't you even dare to say refereeing in PES2013 "was alright".

- Red cards faults, this is, sliding tackles to the back, sliding tackles to the back in the penalty area, etc, were always a yellow card. This was specially bugging when playing agains my mates
- Offsides were signaled 15 minutes and a few signed court orders after they happened
- The tackles CPU made when you shot inside the box were never, ever, given to you. The good thing is that if you did it it wouldn't be a fault either, where in PES2015 they will give fault against you
- There was no such thing as players blocking others

The best thing about this refereeing was the relatively sane amount of yellow cards, if you look past the ones that should be red. But everything else was quite bad actually

 

[Parkinfed]

No, I meant that being what it was I preferred it to what I have this year, I'll swear on something precious even the tackles I win fair and square get me those yellow little ****s.
Sadly though, knowing konami as I have known them, there would not be a patch to fix it...:=(

 

[IronCity]

my AI controlled Keeper and defenders will give away penalties much too often, particularly the goalkeeper

 

[Parkinfed]

my AI controlled Keeper and defenders will give away penalties much too often, particularly the goalkeeper

May I suggest switching the Auto Sliding option in Personal Data Settings to either OFF or Semi-assisted rather that assissted. That would take care of them giving away penalties.

 

[IronCity]

May I suggest switching the Auto Sliding option in Personal Data Settings to either OFF or Semi-assisted rather that assissted. That would take care of them giving away penalties.

I will look into that. I think I have it on semi now but forget. the keeper given penalties are always the slightest touches.

 

[princo45]

The real reason the refereeing is programmed so blatantly overzealous with yellow card on sliding tackle is because the game designers run out of ideas to cheat and get away with it in this situation.

The game designers realize that the only situation when the CPU dribbling god-mode and immunity cheat does not look convincing is when their cpu player was sliding-tackled.

This is the only venue left for the player to effectively invalidate the cheating God-like CPU.

This is where The Truth won and the dishonest deception fails.

They can not pull the wool over our eyes regarding the effect of sliding tackle. They can not give their cpu player wings to fly or make the ball immaterial. The contact with the ball or player has to be made due to sliding momentum. Can't cheat any more. What to do?

So they program so as most of the successful sliding tackle results in a foul and yellow card or instant red card to disadvantage us once again (and to ironically deter us from playing the game the only real effective way).

I feel so satisfied to sliding tackle in this game despite the red cards because I feel for once the game designers could not cheat me convincingly. They have to make their precious CPU player either dispossessed or fall down. They have no choice.

But they never concede defeat to the Truth without another desperate grasp at cheating...

Another blatant trick Game designers use to invalidate your successful tackle is when their cpu player falls to the ground, and as a result he holds You back for a delay or takes you out when you're about to take possession.

 

[EthanLionel]

there is some shit that really, really makes me wanna install PES6 again.

There's a time that I felt this way also but it's hard to enjoy PES6 again once you are able to experience the FUN in PES 2015.

The real reason the refereeing is programmed so blatantly overzealous with yellow card on sliding tackle is because the game designers run out of ideas to cheat and get away with it in this situation.

I don't think the "card" spamming is designed for CPU cheating. Firstly, it also happens in "human" vs "human". It was just not properly programmed because the referee thinks a "slight contact and strong contact" are the same. The sometimes not call a foul at all even if it's a strong contact. I hate it too! It's like, they didn't test the game before they release it.

In regards, to the fouls favoring the CPU. Well, I think they give the "favor" to the "CPU" because they CPU or else the game would be too easy. They should fix it of course but how? I mean, the game will be too easy if the game is favoring the "CPU'' 50-50. I know the is already easy to some, but It will be a lot easier if the CPU has no advantage.