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Hawkeye, I honestly got PES 2011 playing in a way that gave me realistic shots, goals and stats with 20 minute halfs. That's one of the things I really appreciate about FIFA 12 this year: by simply tweaking CPU tactics, it's possible to accomplish the same thing. The CPU will slowly build up...

I missed that in your last post, good to know. I play 20 minute halfs and tweak the game accordingly, so slowing the game down to a realistic level works for me.

I spent weeks testing and using a global editor to get the gameplay right in PES 2011. It was fine after that and most broken games are savable. I'm just not interesetd in the same work and time commitment this year. And from what I've seen, it'll take just as much work to get PES 2012 to play a...

On that we agree.

Yes, going by what other people report and after watching countless videos. But that's normal for any game. And it's why there are reviews and discussion forums -- so that consumers can make informed decisions. Probably 9 out of 10 gamers on these various forums have been highly critical of PES...

That's correct. And then the game came out, and immediately people were in an uproar over the horrible GKs and a few other issues. Then Konami released a patch that screwed up the gameplay even further. I followed the whole drama on the various PES forums so I know the story. And then I...

You stilll don't get it, wow. Go back, read ockrass' post again keeping in mind he's a flaming FIFA troll, then come back and post your findings, lol.

Funny, I played the same demos, then waited to hear what users had to say after the game was released. And after reading things for a couple weeks, it became clear the game was a broken mess this year, so I didn't buy it. If you're not entirely to blame for rushing out prematurely to buy the...

IDK, all that second vid did was convince me how even Jenkey's patch can't save the game this year. It's just the same running end to end at top speed for 90 minutes, only in slow motion. That's not football, that's hockey, or maybe Sonic Soccer. I honestly can't believe how awful and ridiculous...

There's your problem right there: you bought the game in the state it's in. Don't blame Konami, blame yourself. The user reviews on every PES site on the net made it very clear the game isn't worth the purchase this year. You had plenty of warning.

Your sarcasm meter needs serious adjusting mate.

You're the same dude who posted those vids to show people the wonder that is PES, and now you're saying you agree with our resident FIFA troll? I don't get that at all, bro.

Hey, you're like the forum's anti-ockrass: same juvenile posts, only pro-PES.

It's not about standing around, it's about moving and buiding play at varied speeds. I just watched the first vid again, and it's constant, non-stop running at full speed. That's the issue I'm talking about.

Okay, good to know. But at the same time I read countless complaints about the issue with the midfield play -- that there isn't much midfield play, and that the CPU instead drops 8 players back on defence.

It's not about players running too fast, that's fine. The issue is the CPU doesn't take any time moving the ball up the pitch. It's just hyper-fast back and forth, up and down action. There's no slowing the gameplay down whatsoever, no standing still, nothing. Not in that first vid anyway.

I was following a thread on one site where the person had posted pics of weird and crazy AI flaws in this year's PES. One showed the midfield line -- all three midfielders -- parked 12 yards BEHIND the defensive line. Another showed the entire midfield area with 2 players standing in midfield...

I agree, and I also understand the purpose of your thread. I'm not arguing any of that. If one were to do the same with FIFA, I'm not sure anyone could come up with more than 2-3 examples of CPU attacking tactics. Varied CPU strategy just isn't coded into that game, mostly I think because EA...

I can't believe I'm agreeing with ockrass, but he's right. Or partly right anyway. That vid he posted looks remarkably similar to the way FIFA plays this year. Now, I had to spend weeks testing and editing player ratings, and adjusting CPU tactics in order to get it to play like that. But FIFA...

The hyper-quick, up and down gameplay in your video is almost secondary, although that's part of it. I was really talking about the fact the players appear to have no body weight, and make cuts and passes without any effort, without animating fully or at all. It creates a robotic, ping-pong look...