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Interesting stuff. I'll take a longer look tomorrow and comment. But two things stuck out: the gameplay is much more organic than FIFA 12 (which I'm playing and enjoying right now). Also, the speed of the game and player movement (both agility and animations) are extremely quick and very...

Absolutely. But creating and assigning custom tactics fixes a lot of that.

Ha-ha! True for some games for sure. But I installed FIFA and I have to say I'm enjoying it because it's not a broken, frustrating mess like PES 2012.

It's internet thug talk for I'm a raging fanboy I know, but no way I plan on admitting it so I'll just reply with "biatch."

Do you ever have anything worthwhile to say? Heck, even something intelligible would be an improvement.

Perfectly stated and exactly true. I still say FIFA 12 is the better game this year though, solely because it appears EA actually tested it before releasing it. It isn't fundamentally broken like PES 2012 is.

That part is definitely true, ha-ha! And probably why I find FIFA so enjoyable lol.

Bro, in 20 years of gaming I have never played online. No idea who you played, but it wasn't me lol. BTW, pretty weak comeback after rightfully being called out for being a flaming PES fanboy.

You hit on the several serious problems with the game. Fortunately for me, a few of those can be fixed to a degree with the PC version, or by simply editing player ratings and assigning CPU custom tactics. My CPU teams now get 1-3 cards per game along with several fouls, for example. The faux...

Your comments are as hollow and meaningless as ockrass's posts about FIFA being sim and PES arcade. Anybody who can't or won't admit that PES 12 has some serious, fundamental gameplay problems isn't being honest or doesn't know football, end of story.

The whack transfers can be fixed if you have the PC version of FIFA 12.

Some you can, some you can't. Unless you have the PC version, then you can edit whatever you like.

When dealing with forum baiters like this ockrass guy, not sure it matters what you say or how you say it. They don't listen because they're only here to troll.

No. Seeing things in black any white is about seeing the world only in terms of extremes. You fail again. Life lesson for you: Trying to cover up your original idiotic comment with yet another moronic statement only shows you're not man enough to admit your first mistake. People see right...

Amazing, there's a discerning mind behind all that trolling and baiting BS after all.

Let's see: - You say you're black. - Your life sucks so bad apparently that you have nothing better to do than troll game forums and post idiotically childish comments like the one above. So are you telling us your being black and miserable is the reason for your ridiculous behavior?

So am I. But I also really enjoyed driving my Renault Le Car in my 20s -- bombed around, had great fun, etc. But I always knew what it was. And it sure wasn't anything like the Honda Civic I drive now. That Renault was a toy car in comparison.

I told you to come back when you're man enough to have an honest adult conversation. Stop your trolling, grow up, get real, and then we'll talk.

Oops, ha-ha! Thought you were wondering why it wasn't getting more love. It gets 9.5 because it animates well and has few decent things going for it. But most of all it looks real pretty, something our vapid 21st century society goes nuts over.

Nothing to win or lose IMO. One game (FIFA) is shallow, beautiful but works. The other (PES) is strategically deep, butt ugly and broken. Really just a case of pick your poison if anything.