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In America I'd wager to guess that PES gets more people INTO actual soccer than out of it.

Murc I thought you quit playing PES like two years ago? You come back just in time to whine about another new version? You are a habitual bitcher dude, if you don't like the game and haven't in 2 years then go play outside instead of posting here where people like these games. Anyway I'm not so...

"Everything going for it" except the main game part eh? Heh. Kind of easier to do presentation than it is to perfect gameplay.

Yeah I agree. Konami can do a lot more when it comes to the little things, especially regarding atmosphere.

Errm.. nevermind. Is there a way to delete your post?

Hopefully they haven't made it easy to beat defenders.

O_O Are you serious? The xbox360 version was absolutely terrible compared to the PS2 version of PES6...

So you're going to play the computer with a PS2 controller and play online with an Xbox controller? Huge waste of money dude. You will want to get used to one controller, won't you? Getting used to the PS2 controller and then playing online with an xbox controller will be extremely annoying...

Konami's stats are pretty damn good overall. Adriano is somewhat over-rated, but this is made moreso by the change from recent PES where body size and weight matters so much more... so a physically big guy like Adriano is way too hard to get the ball off of. Hopefully they work this out in the...

Game reviewers look for obvious things like presentation, drastic gameplay changes, etc. Basically whatever you can notice in a day's worth of playing. The difference between PES6 and PES4 is very, very, very huge in gameplay terms. PES4 feels like absolute shit when I go back and play it now...

Good tune and uhh... this clip is fucking rad. I love the stone cold expression on the dude's face like he's concentrating to make that happen, while the other guy beside him looks absolutely confused.

The only thing I'm worried about is the potential for abuse. Will people be able to figure out times when diving is the right thing to do? Or will it always incur a huge risk? Hopefully it won't be a situation where a good player at the game can wander into the penalty box, 'do the thing', hit...

This kind of makes me want to try it out. Whenever a new PES is released, everybody moans that it's been ruined and that it's way too slow and they can't do anything. I am wondering how many people gave the Fifa demo an honest shot? Games like this have a high learning curve. The slowness I...

When I started playing Winning Eleven 7, I played a few matches on 4 star, then up to 5 stars right off. You will lose a fair bit at first but the best way to learn the game properly is playing at this level. IMO you're not really doing yourself any favors practicing against low difficulty.

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No, that you can play high just shows that the gameplay is intuitive and beautiful and that it doesn't require memorization to be good at it. Practice makes perfect murc. PS I thought you quit?

I can play well high but I become utterly useless after too many beers :)

I didn't add you to MSN ... but well I suppose I will:P Your team has a lot of great players, some of the other 9 people must be hurting. In our little circle we have not made any point system or anything (yet) but we do trades occasionally. We play with only 19 players on a team so our...

Nice! Yeah we use them for tourneys and the like, and it's a lot of fun. Progression in ML's is a little too crazy imo and I prefer a more realistic team. What's SGU stand for? My team is Guardians FC, and I am quite happy with them in this version. They are much better than they were in the...

Well myself and 4 friends have created custom teams from drafting players... so they don't age or grow or anything. Vieira + Gerrard is a good tip... right now I play Gerrard - Seedorf - Kaka as my midfield but I might try maybe getting rid of Seedorf and getting Vieira in the back... if I...