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Apart from the way the AI plays (which I hate it so much), I think this demo is better than demo 1. It shows solid improvement and the thing that really struck me is how much variation each team has to offer. I played with Juve obviously ;) and I felt like the actual Juve were playing...

Ah, Tech Skill, long time no see man. Now bear in mind that I didn't play demo 2 yet. I have only played Demo 1 and although I had fun playing it (certainly with all it's flaws, it still plays better than Fifa for me), I have to say that I totally agree with what you're saying. The AI does not...

Yes it is, I'll agree to that, however my point was that it isn't and it won' be true 360 degrees. The animations just mask i really well though.

Nah, Fifa was always the big one. I remember back in school not many played Pes but many played Fifa and many kids used to say that Fifa just has the teams. I don't remember Pes being the big one. It had MORE fanbase, true. But never Fifa's level. To me Fifa 12 felt too loose even though it...

Did you even read the other part? I never said licenses alone make the sells. I said that licenses and authenticity + EA's good marketing campaign make the sales. The games looks real and that's what matters to many people, but when you analyse it, it does NOT play real and that's why Fifa will...

@menaceuk, don't for a second think that what EA say will be real because it has been proven time after time that they come up with stupid names for supposed "tweaks" just to sell their product more and NOT because they actually made changes that mattered. Fifa does NOT have 360 movement. The...

In Pes 12 demo Inter were there instead of Juve :doh: :tongue: I am 100% sure that in Pes 13 demo, Juve are gonna be in. Afterall, it was a huge year for Juventus.

Man that's awesome news indeed. It's a surprise for sure. If the continue on like this, it should be a definite day 1 purchase. So far, I can say this, "Nice job, Konami" because at this point in time, they deserve it. :) Let's hope the balancing and especially defender blocking (which is...

That's what put me off Fifa 12 (apart from other annoying issues). But the AI was just way too bad and when the AI beat you, it never felt right. he way the AI cheated in Fifa 12 is very evident. They have way better reflexes than any of your players, shooting missiles from everywhere...

Pes 13 so far does have it's fair share of problems even with cheating, but cheating is not nearly as evident as in Pes 12, because in Pes 12, you couldn't do anything about it. but in Pes 13, you can make it happen slightly less. But yes, cheating will never go away. BTW, don't tell me you...

Up until a year and a half ago, I was that person. I was afraid to open up the PC. Then something struck me and I decided to buy my own PC and build it. And as you said, it is very simple. A bit frustrating at first because it might seem like a never ending process (mainly your fear causes...

^So Sminky, Superstar plays better than the cheat Top Player? What I mean is does it have less cheats and more "because the AI was good" moments? Because in Top Player there are some instances where the AI does stat boosting and is very evident.

That's because players like Del Piero, THE BIGGEST JUVE PLAYER IN HISTORY are true gentlemen and loyal to their club. Personally, I blame the media for this and not this generation of players. The media is always b!tching about this and that and most of the time, a player is forced to leave...

I have to say this because it needs to be said. I have been playing on professional level and it was and still is a very enjoyable experience, but what happened when I switched it to Top Player? Huge AI cheating issues like scoring every opportunity, 1 mistake on your part = a goal always, they...

This could have been legit and true until: Trust me on this one. Marketing and strategies are the reason for over 75% of the selling. The rest is split into other things, but marketing is where the selling mostly happens. That was true until pes 13 introduced the R2 slow dribble that...

Daymos, You cannot deny that the AI does cheat however. It's annoying to see the AI score sometimes because you could feel the cheating. But note. I said "sometimes" because the way the AI works in this game is to frustrate you and the AI does play a patient game. What's a patient game? Well...

Dundon makes a great point about the power button and the way it fills up during the shots in pes 13. Yes. That's an issue and I totally agree on that. However, to say that he won't get pes just because of it is just well, it's a whole different ball game and that changes the argument entirely...

That's why I like it here. When something is bad, we have the decency to say it and we also don't fall for everything that pes tried to give us. But this year, FINALLY, it's different. But the fifa guys. Man oh man how stupid and annoying can a human being be? :facepalm: It's ok to like...

I am sorry you feel that way, but from your post, I can honestly conclude that you didn't spend enough time with pes 13, because in all honesty I don't think you know of the following. First touch. Now in pes 13 you can control the first touch in 3 different ways. Manual shooting, passing...

You know what irritates me? When people say they can play "proper" football in Fifa. I mean really? :ohmy: So proper football for you is when you abuse the strength (which is hugely Overpowered in Fifa) and speed of players while players like Pirlo which aren't so strong or fast become uselsss...