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I wanted to love PES this year but Seabass and Co. prevented it again. Now I'm stuck with another copy of PES which I doubt I'll ever play again. I've made this decision after patching the PES with all the real kits, names, grounds etc and after a week of forcing myself to try and love it like I...

I don't dude but I'm seriously considering requiring one this side of 2010. Last year I remember reading in on this thread and this kind of thing is right up my street. The only thing is I'm not great at Fifa to be honest, but if I can get anywhere as good as I was at PES I'd be able to do a job...

Nice, would you recommend getting in on it? What I mean to say is, are the games quality, do you do live chat and is there lag? One more thing, how many players have you got on a regular basis turning up for team PESGaming and how did you work out the positions?, I imagine there'd be a serious...

It does, but do you have to be online to build him up or can you import your player?

How does building up your personal player stats online work and how long does it take to get him decent?

I've started playing Fifa 11 on the 360 the last few nights and as much as it pains me to say it, the game is far more complete than PES nowdays. I'm a long way from been anywhere near as good as I'd like to be but I'll tip away and do my trade in the manager mode. Maybe Santa is good to me and...

Aside from that there's still no option to get the players names back in the userbars like it used to be.

I had a few games off it and it's not bad but not great either, UFC is still ahead of it by a good distance but there are aspects of it that are interesting and if implied into the UFC title would be fantastic. For the record the striking is like Fight Night.

Where did I hear that before? :lol:

It all depends on if you liked PES 2008 onwards, if you did then you'll like this game for sure. If you didn't then it's still broken if that's what you're wanting to know.

You've ruined everything that was once good and pure. That is all.

You put in your apple. *Couldn't resist.

Removing the old name-bars from the bottom corners is just taking the piss. Why oh why do they waste time fucking around with things that were fine all along? I've lost all hope with PES, it's just a completely different game to the PES I grew up with.

Doesn't matter what they say or how easy it is to score one, they look pathetic.

The Goalkeepers in PES are terrible, all you have to do to score nowdays is run towards the goal and tap the button, any good player on here will be able to do this anytime they get the shot off and this works from as far out as 30 yards most of the time, and guess what? If the keeper does save...

Anybody giving any of those football games anything near a 9/10 are on drugs.

I've given the game plenty of time and it still doesn't cut the mustard. Everything about it is just too ropey, shooting, dribbling, skills, rebounds, AI, Goalkeepers, commentary, player animations, referees and the general lag on everything you try and preform. I know it's a mother n father of...

Then you've never played a proper football game mate because there's no way on this Earth that PES20011 warrants a compliment that describes it as being "great". Love is blind.

Ok is it just me or are they a complete waste of space? I'm devastated they're so bad.

This is a joke right?