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Have to admit it after reading through this thread I'm falling into the trap again of thinking it's going to be great...

8 people have voted this to be the game they were waiting 4 years for and nobody has still said it's worse than last year out of the 30 votes so far That's encouraging. :P

Well the good news "so far" is that no one has voted the game to be worse than last years.

Anybody care to enlighten the rest of us without the demo to short run through?

This really is a shit or bust year, in my heart I want it to work out but there's always this side of me just sitting there waiting to be devastated again.

Don't be a hero son, it's all a scam and that's the end of it.

Just watched it there, this explains how Fifa gets a 9+ year in year out when it's really a glorified 7 and that stretching it.

The demo mate. Some people will get to play it tomorrow on PS3 but a lot of us will have to wait until next week for the PC version.

Here we go again gents it's that time of the year so I though a quick better/worse/same guide was in order. Graphics: Sound: Commentary: Menu: Shooting: Passing: Dribbling: Goalkeepers: Freekicks: Penalties: Skills: ------------------------------------------------- Good points: Bad...

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That's the start of it now. I just can't believe it has taken them this long to start at that racket aswell. Anyways I came in here in a hope of finding out if the PC version is getting released early but after reading that I think I can safely presume that I'll be waiting.

Pity because that relentless heavy metal rift is shocking and will only drive new members away from the door, because once I click into a site and shite kicks in like that I immediately abort. I understand what selling out means perfectly well but the music is just a little invasive to put it...

Some of the ads on this site are getting way out of hand and are far from appropriate considering the average age on here. Worst though is that car ad that loads up the metal music, it is doing my tits in. Nothing more annoying in the world right now than it randomly blasting out over my...

Fucker!!!

I honestly think it's after turning a cornor going by what I've seen even without play testing it myself. It's like this, if PES is even 75% back to it's normail standard we should all start getting very excited. God knows this auld haunt could seriously do with it, the forum has had nothing...

I was a 1 upto like 2 minutes ago until I seen the new gameplay, now I have to confess I'm a good 82.4

Right... I have to admit I wasn't expecting this at all. Might be too early to get carried away but I'm liking what I see going by the gameplay in that France V Germany game.

I'll give the kid a week and then he'll be swimming with dSweey.

Not sure if you've watched the video but from what I seen there's a strong grab thing going on which is very promising.

Well, going by the hype and shit talk over the last 3 years PES will suck again this time around and won't have half the improvements needed in which to gain the respect back from the die hard fans still doing the rounds in haunts like this and that is the fact, don't hate me for it.