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I've played at Semi-Pro and the video still came up as Amateur. Has happened several times. Plus, I won't be beating anyone 10-0, I'm not good enough :)

You've been trolling this thread for quite some time, you don't like FIFA, we get it. But don't act as if it's inferior to PES, because it hasn't been for a few years now. I used to be PRO PES/ANTI FIFA, but over the years I've learned to like something without hating on something else. I don't...

RR trolling a thread? Fuck me, the day must end in a "y"... How have you got the game so early? I've just ordered my SE from Play; hoping for a dispatch by 17:00.

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Well we played PES so much that we would end up doing Round Robin tournaments, and it was literally all he had in his locker so once we put a ban on it (or ridiculed/called him a prick for always doing it to the point he would stop just to shut us up) he was found out. Btw I'm talking PES3/PES4...

The cut back was a joke. We had a friend who would play 4-3-3 and put his FWs right in the corners and then rape us with Henry, Wiltord and Bergkamp. It was such a kop out that we ended up banning it.

I never bought FIFA 10 or 11 (I rented/borrowed), only 09, so buying 12 will be a good thing for me (I think). I haven't been awesome at footy games since the previous gen of PES games, so hopefully won't find myself mastering scoring for quite sone time.

Are there any threads you don't troll and take over? I was playing ISS/PES rather than FIFA for 15 years, so if I was going to jump bandwagon I think I would have done so a lot earlier. PES feels a chore to play, whilst FIFA I find enjoyable. I have nothing against PES players, but there's no...

At least it'll be in topic for once! We've all been where RR is, defending PES and claiming it to be superior to FIFA.

I'd rather pay for a slightly improved copy of FIFA 11 than any recent PES, which appears to take steps backwards. And before you cry, I used to be a PES fanboy, but it's just become shit.

I paid 300 for Berg, just so I've got a decent striker! Also paid 300 for the Santos home kit ;)

Has anyone been online to the UT website and opened their two free packs? You can choose your line up, bid on players etc already.

I might pick up a Hardened Edition, but only if I see it on the day as I won't be ordering it online.

In that case, order from ShopTo, as they'll give you the lowest price if you've preordered, I believe. How much were map packs? It's been almost two years since I bought one! Trying to weigh up the cost of the normal edition and hardened.

If you're gonna be in on the day just use ShopTo; you'll need someone to sign for it.

Then that is bollocks. They gonna force me to use the default controls, too?

You do know that you can switch it back to the old style? Would also help your mates.

I just pop into Asda on the day.

If you're spending £90 already then an extra few quid to guarantee delivery on release day won't hurt? Or order from here; delivery is Recorded and it's free. http://www.shopto.net/page.php?page=search&categ=&platform=&banner=rage%20home&searchtext=rage%20anarch&layout=0...

Won't play for me?