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yea.. exactly.. it is a waste of money getting it on any console.. PC is the only real option...

you can pre-order PES4 from http://www.gamesmarket.com.au

is it free?? i hope it is... coz i don't wanna pay..

there is already a rugby thread.. it is mighty quiet so i don't know where u get this idea that there is a demand for it.. i think it will crash and burn just like the rugby one..

shit £200 a month.. that is pretty pricey.. that is close to AU$550 wow.. would not have guessed that much.. how many gigs are we talking of traffic??

well.. they are playing on bringing out Counter-Strike Source.. which will be CS on the HL2 engine.. and from what i have heard.. it will not be that difficult (for a mod maker) to transfer their mod to the HL2 engine.. so in all likely hood we will see the classic HL mods on the HL2 engine..

wow.. that was awesome.. and a half volley.. that is... wow...

yea.. but u could do them in PES3, but they looked more like they used their groin to pass them, not your chest.. but it shows off how fleunt the gameplay is.. and in PES3 the striker would have controlled it first with their foot and then had the shot.. so i like how they just have a crack...

after 13mins 42 seconds!!! it occupaied you that long?? shit...

don't know... but the main thing u want is a mouse.. the X-box aiming thing is retarded.. which is what makes halo so retarded.. and besides halo is average compared to most PC shooters.. but enough about retarded halo..

i want screenies too.. lots of em...

why do people want to egt eh X-box version?? the main thing that will make this game good is its graphics/technology.. so why buy the x-box version and take away all chance of seeing D3 in all its uber-graphics glory?? it is plain crazy talk i tell ya...

this had better be a HL2 movie or a WoW movie... or i will be bitterly disappointed in all that say this is the game to end all games...

i will download it on broadband tomorrow at work.. watch it just to see how it will 'woo' me into playing it and then being bitterly disappointed, which seems to be what EA try to do...

here is Zyg again posting info that can be found by sticky threads already lovated through out the forum.. i am starting to believe that 60% of ur posts involve x-ports.. :D

i earmarked this game after i saw some E3 stuff on it.. i can't really remember what it is.. but i remember that i would have a look at it closer to it coming out... could someone post a mini review??

i hope that Konami take a leaf out of CM's book and make it so that the players are similar in skill.. for example.. you know how there are a shit load of quality players out there in the CM world.. but when u make a pes master team there is always 20 players that everyone buys?? that annoyed...

ARGH!! how many of you people have a PC capable of running HL2?? and how many people that fall into the above ctaegory voted for something other than HL2?? just wondering...

information.. but logically, the more people, the more information...

well it is all about how much information is allowed to pass through the server.. once it reaches that amount.. u get the message that you recieved.. i am just wondering how much that is... and what the cost is...