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yeah I know that UEFA has it's conditions, but it still sucks, I'm just very dissapointed...that's all

Yeah how come they could afford 35 stadium licenses 2 years back but can only afford 19 now? And I don't really believe the licenses crap, ever since the next gen consoles came out the PES games lacked stadiums, even PES 6 had only 8 or something stadiums on xbox.

Yeah I must say I'm not that impressed with the corrections Konami claimed they have made to the AI, in a lot of the gameplay videos the defense still leaves huge gaps...it was never like that in PES4/5/6. I don't really care about the keepers that much, but the defence being so dumb as in...

Yeah I don't know why but I expected much more stadiums, how come FIFA added 15 and Konami only added 4? Even if it's not the biggest stadiums in the world it would be nice just to have a variety. I know they struggle for licenses, but why? Konami is fucking rich!

Yeah I certainly don't expect it to be perfect, I really hope it's good! It's a really good concept, and the fact that you can play so many seasons is great, I just want it to give me fair ratings in the game in BAL mode, and I hope that it's not scripted cause then I'm going to crap my...

AND I....rest my case...lol

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yeah they do, by the way your mother sends her love and best wishes

wishfull thinking, sorry to dissapoint you but I'm happily married to my beautiful wife. But I'll give you credit, at least nobody can say you didn't try

yeah probably dude, but don't fear...maybe you will still have the better game, as PES08 on ps2 was MUCH BETTER than PES08 on next gen consoles

It sounds more as if you two can't wait to get your hands on eachother...lol

I would also like to know what this option file will include, some douchbag homosexual said that it will include new ball types, proper advertising boards, all the kits correct etc. but i highly doubt that.

I agree, personally I think if they just change something as small as the players being able to run in 360 degrees, instead of the 32 angles engine they have in place now would ruin the game for me. It would feel like fifa if they ever change that.

I'll sign up now

well I won't be happy with a edit mode that is exactly the same as PES06, and I fear that is what we will get (only with the new image import stuff), I want a next gen edit mode, where I can edit logos on the socks, add as many sponsor logos on the teams kits as I like, whether they are on the...

well it does concern PES09 since PES09 uses the same engine

Supossed? How sure are we that it's going to be huge? I'm pretty sceptical to say the least. And I know they said the AI has improved, and I can see in the gameplay movies that it has improved, but it's still lacking, watch the defense, they leave enormous gaps at times, as they did in PES08!

I'm not just complaining about the 8 unlicensed teams, I'm complaining that it's a seperate mode altogether, I'm sure I won't be playing the CL mode everyday as it will become very old very quickly. Konami is only using the CL license from a marketing standpoint and NOT to add to the overall...