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I'm glad you like Manual on fifa, its a challenge no doubt, but i think you missing the point here, Pes's shooting is ''scripted'' in accordance with player stats, which is what gives the game depth compared to manual shooting. Basically yes, Technically, Full Manual is a skill and its harder...

Its something else I found in the demo, its the contextual error system they use I think, The AI says 'right your missing that one now', perhaps it does that more for the shitter player than the good ones, and that is fifa's player individuality, but I too think there is something going on...

LMAO, your kind of right, the reason I didn't go down that route, is that I think its possible to implement player individuality on a ''manual'' framework depending on what your interpretation of manual is. If your interpretation of manual = User controls every single thing Then yes, your...

Ok, im playing now with Messi and Iniesta etc in defense, and goalkeepers and defenders upfront on all manual, so far, no noticeable difference between players, I will play a little more, and see what happens.

So in fifa this year, the manual passing takes stats into account right? Is this just a feature in the final version or is it the same in the demo, cos im firing up the xbox now to test this shit.

I respect your opinion. I just wanted to make a point. For alot of people, Manual takes away from the reasons they enjoy football games, In that manual on fifa tends not to support player individuality no?? Maybe its different on fifa11, (ill fire up the xbox and try it) but on manual if you...

1) Demos-are-there-for-a-reason. You play them, then you decide how likely you are to like the game and then you decide whether you would like to buy the game, based on these and other decisions you have made during the decision process. If you are suggesting I forget all the shit I saw in the...

I thought you said Laters, now your back....what's it gonna be, you gonna man it out in here, or run off with your knickers down your ankles like before. LMAO. Who's opinion is more relevant.... Let See. Your biggest contribution to the fifa vs pes debate so far has been.... Now, I think...

Lmao, what a fucking crybaby, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings with the abortion comment, has your mother really had an abortion or something? Did she wanna abort you and then she missed her appointment at the clinic? As for FIFA, who's opinion do I take into account? the gamechangers who...

What line? I was talking about football, you decided to get personal, fine by me, I love talking about the personal lives of posters on here, next time, be a good boy, stick on topic and don't try and raise the stakes and you'll be fine. Regarding the original comments you made towards me...

If ever there was a case of someone projecting their own homo-erotic fantasies this was it..... do me a favor, when your mother gets home, climb back into her pussy head first and abort yourself in there. With a bit of luck she'll be shitting your remains down the loo by dinnertime tomorrow.

How can you talk to her when she's over here? She can't even talk right now........ all I can hear is alot of slurping, hold on........ Okay I just had a word, she says dinner is already in the oven, heat it up when your ready, she'll be home later on.

He's fine with it, your mother cant stand it though, still she gets paid at the end so all is forgiven.

Fuck me, please tell me your not one of these ''you cant judge a game till you have played the final version'' clowns. Whats the fucking point of a demo if you cant form an opinion on how good the game actually is from it? Infact, I'll go another route, go on evo web the only other half decent...

Reviews are bullshit, thats all I gotta say about that and IGN....... well, What score did they give PES2008???

Yeah yeah, but I think you need to PLAY the fucking game also, I dont disagree with alot of what your saying, but PES can learn from Fifa on quite a few things, In game atmosphere, Player movement, animations to name a few. I dont mind people having their own opinions, that fine, but when people...

Look, at the end of the day, you should have played the fifa 11 demo, its still better than PES2011 in quite a few areas and in my opinion, fifa has been the better game of the last few years FACT, this year things might be a little different, but you should have played fifa11 and tested it...

4 hours on, im still trying to work out what the fuck Amateur is talking about, I kinda see what he's saying about how you can do much with the left stick other than stand still or run (in fifa there is an inbetween slow dribble you can do if you dont push the analouge stick all the to the max)...

Right, well for the first time in a few years, I will NOT be buying FIFA11 on its UK release date tomorrow. And guess what, Im reading Evo Web and seeing a few posters SLATE the game BAD, and guess what, its the SAME shit I orginally posted in this thread, pressure trash games, one of the...

I think iv'e seen a quote from Jon Murphy to say that the updated tranfers patch will be released roughly 2 weeks after release. I hear there is a patch that is already available but its not for transfers (I think its on psn or summin not sure, evo web were saying it) have to find out more on...