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For the record, these jokers writing on the main page just dont get it. Bascially the Joker who writes interferring with play was blabbing on about how he believes pes 2010 can be the greatest game of all time, and how the trailer was not a worrying sign that this years game might be up to...

Better OP the above by far. I'll tell you something though, I stand by my original perspective on pes @ e3. There could have been some form of closed door feeeback session A statement similar to this could have been realeased. I still dont understand why they cant tell us this...

Ermm Jon mate, give me those gameplay details mate, cos like many PES veterans, Graphics and player endorsements are the last things that need changing in this game. Ps. The fact he's asking for feedback on the trailer as if we were going to be wowed by it, is a bit worrying.

Quoted unless anyone missed it before, I thought there is something here which could actually benefit pes. I'll wait till my yellow card expires before flaming the noobs again.

Just two things. 1)Now that you have adopted my point on Business ideas. Tell me, how many businesses can survive by not catering to the needs of their target audience? 2) PES was built on a bunch of fans who wanted realistic gameplay over flashy crap, that's a fact, PES years ago was not...

Lol, I cannot find any rumors to bring here about pes 2010, nothing. The motion cap is a start in the right direction though, although as fifa showed for years before 09, that doesn't guarantee great player animations, but its a start from seabass because that game needs more animations...

Yeah, the crazy AI was better in 09, but it was still bad. When you get pes 2010. All you need to do is play barca, in the camp nou. Top player. Then when you score 1st, see how the cpu behaves, that how you know how bad it is.

PES 08 was was the begining of the end, because they started really ramping up this teamvision bolllocks. Remember this garbage by Konami??? It went something like "You cant keep doing the same tactics because they AI adapts to your style of play" When it really was "We'll just ramp up the...

Chill out guys, alot of the flaming is in jest, all part of the show, You can flame me too. Right now, I am pro-fifa, this is because I know for a fact they listen more than Konami and are genuninley intrested in the feedback of this community. But. I played so many hours of pes through the...

Ermm what details does the press release go into about animations? Notice the word details, cos i saw some garbage about 'Animations now dovetail into each other seamlessly, with dribbling and shots on goals worked into dribbling animations' what the fuck is that? Ill tell you, Marketing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIZmQ7F1EZg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcnwsq-5Ob8 *Yawn* I cant believe im having to post vids on this, i thought most people who played pes since psx days knew pes has ALWAYS cheated to some degree, and fifa 09 does it as well.

Even pes 5 had its moments, pes 6 was bad but you could just about get by, pes 2008 was unbearable. And before any fucktwats start talking about how shit we are for noticing when the AI is going to score....On pes 2008 I won ML div 1 and 2 straight away with Juventus on the hardest setting (Very...

You tell me what Konami have said, cos I must be missing all these great improvements that you are using to delude yourself....oh i forgot you know konami is coming out with something great but you dont know what that is. lol. Lets see. out of the shit konami has come out with so far, and i...

"2 Years in the making" "200 people working on this game" "Were listening to the knobs on WENB" "Were going back to our simulation roots" And this is what we have so far 1) Sliding tactics gage 2) Europa league. Meanwhile FIFA turns up with the promise of an insane amount...

Cos they make more money from the FIFA vs PES thing, 1 game = one pot to split 2 games = 2 sources of income and 2 sets of fanboy who will buy any old shit just for the name.

Mate your a paralympic great. Cant believe this thread is still going on, the amount of vids on you tube proving AI cheating happens+ feedback from people who have played the game for years. Then a few knobcheeses come out with "Its cos your shit, It never happens to me, Im great" Pure...

Yea, What need to happen here is, some fucker needs to call konami and say "This is our forum, we support you, get your fuckin ass on here on and just pay the fuckers who buy your game some respect buy taking some feedback, or we will all fuck off and buy FIFA" If i was admin on here...

Maybe. Listen, like i always said, if konami show me a proper game, ill come on here and tell it like it is. On 360 dribbling, the people who played it at e3 said it makes a difference, but we shall see. Unless Konami get a new engine I dont see where all the innovations are coming...

Look, seriously now, PES fans need to get realistic, unless they do miricles this year, its highly unlikely they can surpass fifa this year, the gap is just too big. They need to do what fifa did, forget the stupid gimmicks. Build a proper foundation for this year, then keep building on it and...

What is this something blockbuster??? Come on, Someone please explain to me why they have all these great ideas in secret, but they turn up to the biggest game convention on earth with a sliding tactics gage? I mean if they do have these great ideas, then they are fucking stupid for...