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I've just been looking on the PES DB website. Assuming the ratings are correct as per the game, here's a list of overrated (IMO) players I found in the first 2 pages: Fabregas Xabi Alonso Nani Julio Cesar Modric Ronaldinho Gerrard Arteta Krasic Deco Amero (though, I can't really say...

Does it? :unsure: I think you should add an 'L' and an 'I' to the first word in your username. I'll let you figure out where. :joel: I joke, of course. Welcome to the forum. With all the negativity in the PES section this year, a PES-loving new forum member is a welcome addition.

Right folks. Let's get back on topic to discussing overrated players on PES (I'll allow discussion on underrated players too because I'm nice :)). One more off-topic post and I'll be inclined to lock the thread. :ninja:

Doesn't this already happen in PES, or have they removed that too? Each player has a teamwork rating which would be significantly lowered when they'd initially sign for you. I'm sure this was how it was... not sure if it still is? Both games can learn from each other, to be fair. PES has the...

Moved to patch/data pack 2 discussion thread.

Peda69 I translate the gallo25 post in Google: Doesn't look like spam. :)

Good stuff. Might as well close this thread now if the issue is solved. BTW, there is a lot of PES patch discussion in this thread, if you still want to ask more questions about it: http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=91551

£24.95 on Zavvi at the moment if anyone is interested: http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/ps3/pes-2013-pro-evolution-soccer/10606054.html Same for xbox.

OK then, I moved this to another appropriate thread. Didn't really think it was worth creating a new one for it. :)

Is there a point to this thread? I'm sure people know about the controlled shot by now.

Do they still have it so that you can quit in the first 5 mins without penalty, even if you concede?

By world stage, I mean any international tournaments. In fact, even when I've seent hem in the Champions league, they've been average with moments of brilliance. It's how I'd sum up Robben. Shit for 85 mins with 5 mins of brilliance. It's fair to say that I don't watch them week in, week...

I don't think I've ever seen Ribery or Robben perform well on the world stage.

Konami seem to have their favourite players. Is Adriano (the Brazilian striker) still in the game? Seabass had a real fetish over him. I still have a beef about Ribery and Robben being two of the best players in the game, I personally think they're VERY overrated.

I meant crazcan's post, which you have translated, so thanks. With it being his first post, I just wanted to make sure it was a legitimate post... I tried Google translate but it was rubbish. :laugh:

Moved to Online section.

Can you PM me a link to the thread and I'll move these posts to that one. EDIT: Done tremolo arm, your answer to the first part is in here.

Personally, I tend to drop players with a purple arrow. Whether it be online, ML, or just exhibition.... unless the only players to replace them with are absolutely dross in comparison. With a blue arrow, you're not too bad. I would normally keep them in with that if they were a star player...

^^What does this say in English please?

Not necessarily. Even if they were able to get a full license, will there be as many teams as in Fifa? Will Konami be able to add all the Champinship, League 1, Secunda, Serie B etc? In fact, would you trust them to be able to accurately research the lower teams and come up with realistic player...