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In hindsight, perhaps. Anyway, doesn't change the fact that he is a scumbag. ;) Anyway. A lot of folk have their hands on PES now, so lets put this discussion to bed an move on with the raging. Please try to keep all PES incident-related rants to this thread, keep the forum as tidy as...

Could say the same for the Fifa demo actually. Quite a few of the soft fouls I conceded resulted in a yellow card. Even had my goalkeeper sent off for fair challenge (an obvious fair challenge).

Even worse than RE5! Some enemies shoot back at you now! Have you played the demo?

Yeah.... I wasn't that impressed. The Leon parts were OK-ish, but as for the Chris and Jake levels..... WTF??? That's not Resident Evil!!! It's like they've sold out to try and attract fans of the movies by making it more action-oriented, and it doesn't work IMO.

:ohmy: I should ban you for such a blasphemous comment! Anyway, on to your poll question. If I had to choose 1 at the moment, I'd choose Fifa. Pros: PES - Attacking can be fun some times - Passing and shooting feels crisp - Player individuality Fifa - I can play as...

Christ! Looks a bit of an effort!

It was a reference to Jonny Evans..... who happens to be Irish (therefore calling him Irish is not racist)..... who happened to severely injure one of our players (therefore is a scumbag). Now stay on topic and don't double post. Consider that a warning.

Ok, young Matthew. Please explain to me how I can tell with 90-100% certainty when I'm gonna concede a goal? There are some very obvious signs - passes going nowhere near where you aim, referees failing to award you a blatant free kick, your AI controlled teammates moving out of the way.

Has the referee awarded a dodgy penalty against you in the last minute of the Champions League Final? Has some online Barcelona-abuser just broken your 25 game online winning streak with a 35 yard Carles Puyol bicycle kick? Has some scumbag Irish defender put your most influential player out...

Maybe, but doesn't change the fact that I can still spot it easily. I can't remember a time on the PES demo where I was surprised the AI scored against me! Don't get me wrong, I'm not boasting about it.... I'd rather I didn't see it because it ruins my enjoyment of the game significantly.

The feel of closing the disk stray (on the original Playstation) was also quite satisfying.

Doesn't look like it... I imagine it's just to fit the disk reading device in (or however the hell it works)?

I'm not too keen on the corrugated look.

Oh God, I do! Pre season took forever when I need to meticulously complete the training regimes with every player. :D

That's incorrect. The team that kicks off is determined by a coin toss. It's PES that has got this wrong!

I don't use the word "cheating", I use "scripted".... because it doesn't technically "cheat" per se. PES has always been slightly scripted for as long as I remember. Only thing is that now, it seems a lot more obvious (to me anyway). I can just spot every AI goal coming a mile away. Fifa is...

Like Swanee says, it's lazy by Konami. They're essentially releasing an unfinished product. They know when the transfer window ends, and they know when the release date is. I can't see how it could possible take them over a month to update the transfers. EA manage to get a squad update out...

I unlocked more karaoke songs. It has "I Ran" by "Flock of Seagulls" - another classic Vice City throwback. :)

Was it PS2 the last time we saw handballs? I seem to remember it being very hit and miss. I had a handball decision go against me when it hit Henry's shin! As Mak said - the option to mix and match kits was a nice touch.

Mid October?? Really?? :facepalm: It can't be that hard to get the squads updated for day 1, seriously.