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don't get me wrong it doesn't say nothing about the game just that the animations ingame look good. the demo is the only thing that can answer all our questions concerning the actual gameplay improvements or lack of but it helps to know that the animations won't be hurting our eyes this year.

honestly, i'm not impressed by the PES video at all and if a trailer is usually better then the real thing it doesn't look good. the FIFA12 videos look must better and promising but then again their presentation is always stunning. the only reason for me to be optimistic is cause of the things...

still too cartoonlike for my taste, hopefully the gameplay feels much better then it looks

For me it was the worse in the series. If u can't play as a team the individuality can not really be usefull can it? The players had the stats but the engine just wasn't there for them to play as themselves, to make runs, hold up play etc. The response time and cursor switching was never worse...

lets hope not. seabass said the attacking variety will be improved very much but the defensive options will also improve to keep it balanced. PES 2011 had free passing and that was really the only thing that stood out if you asked me, but what was the use of this freedom if the players didn't...

the core? are you kidding? all the thing seabass mentioned in the video are missing in PES 2011. you can only enjoy this game if you like flashy dribbling,overhead flics etc like he said breaking the defence down as a team wasn't really present, holding up play to make your teammates take in...

the core? are you kidding? all the thing seabass mentioned in the video are missing in PES 2011. you can only enjoy this game if you like flashy dribbling,overhead flics etc like he said breaking the defence down as a team wasn't really present, holding up play to make your teammates take in...

the first videos of 2011 looked promising, the reviews made me believe but in the end it was just bull*** so i am just focused on the things that seabass said will be fixed and that's the only thing for now which gives me hope so please do not make the situation worse ok.

just judging by the video and without any other info stats and team wise or difficult settings you are making the assumption that the ai in the new game is messed up. come on, you are much smarter then that. at least say IF this is the highest difficulty setting and IF that is a decent...

this game really seems to be messing with peoples minds, i read some are even saying "the response time of the players seemed to have improved", just by watching the damn video. these are things u feel when u are busy playing the game yourself just like noticing if the a/i is messed up or not...

But since we don't know the difficulty setting nor the players or team stats we can not conclude that this means the ai in the new game is fucked right. In real life even the best defenders make mistakes this is the reason we get goals so as I said the video doesn't mean to much to me except...

The game is ment to be a simulation, so unless you can prove to me that it was a top defensive team or a top defender that was marking so poorly I'm not bothered by attackers loosing their marker in a video, because it all depends on the stats of the team and player not to mention the difficulty...

for all those who thought pes 2011 was great well in this video he mentions all the things that i thought were missing in the game that's why i think it sucked. you couldn't play the game like real football because the options just were not there. if 2012 fixes all these things he mentions i'll...

been a long time since i read a post i totally agree with. FIFA has been shit for years but they market the damn thing so good almost everyone believes the hype but you got it spot on its been shit, it is shit and will probably be shit for years to come. KONAMI just have to make an effort this...

so we are both hoping for a miracle:(

the problem for us that don't like the game is that we are in the minority so chances are KONAMI wont give a shit, since they seemed to have cloned FIFA's unresponsive crap most seem to like it that way. honestly for me and my friends PES 2011 is the worst PES experience we've ever had. still...

sorry to have to say this cause i've been a PES fan for years but you are not alone. i even let a friend of mine borrow the game just because i don't play it anymore. such a thing was unthinkable in the past. agree with you that a patched WE7I is much, much, better and i also think that...

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agree, i had some problems with it at first but after a few games i think its great so lets hope they don't mess that up too much.

same here;)