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I totally agree man. The thing is that even though pes 11 is a good game overall, actually compared to pes 5 and 6, it's on their level FINALLY after some serious downfalls. But anyway, since pes 11 was a HUGE step to make the game leap forward and reach pes 5's level, I think that if Konami...

^ Pes is a game where rage is inevitable. :) Anyway I always play with manual cross because normal crosses aren't good enough. They are almost always over hit, while in manual it'll be your fault if you over hit it. I just wish that pes would make the power bar for all passes, crosses and free...

^Messi does that regularly. I try to watch all Barca games when I can. Anyway, as said before, pes 2008 was the worst pes in history and it had Ronaldo and owen. Pes 11 is actually decent enough to have fun. I like it tbh. It's the most fun I had in pes master league since pes 6.

When did I say I wanted perfection? All I ASK is for a ps3/360 football sim that's all. They're both ps2 quality when compared to games like red dead redemption and Assassins creed. I never said pes 11 was bad. I myself am having fun with it. Reminds me of pes 6 tbh and I congratulated konami...

^ :laugh:. Anyway I agree that both games are flawed. This us unfortunately the truth. Fifa looks like a ps3/360 with nice animations but plays really shallow while pes has more depth overall, but FAILS in making it look like ps3/360 game, not in graphics and faces, but in the animations and...

Hi. I am sorry if I sounded harsh, but you have to realise that you're in a pes forum and you're consistently bashing pes 11 (without even analyzing it and saying the good things it has) and consistently saying how much better fifa 11 is without even admitting it's faults. That for me is close...

^ I agree with you 100%. He's always the same, spamming about how great his beloved fifa is. You can't reason with people like him. Anyway, I was a pes fan back in the day, but switched over to fifa after 08 and stayed with fifa till fifa 10 because it was far better than what pes had to offer...

I recently built a PC and decided to get pes 11 on PC. I haven't played Fifa in a long time because I just didn't like fifa 11. So the animations of pes 11 didn't really bother me. Anyway as for the difficulty. If you've just switched over to pes from ffia, it'll be hard because it's so...

I agree with everything in here. Pes needs an urgent animation overhaul and MORE USER INPUT in everything ESPECIALLY THE MOVEMENT OF THE PLAYER. I mean when you're controlling the player, it doesn't feel like you have total control. It should feel like you have total control, but IT NEEDS TO...

^In a way it is, because it's your show, you control everything. It's much better than GM mode for sure because you have more unpredictability.

Game of the year for me? Red dead redemtpion or Assassin's creed brotherhood. Can't decide. But overall I believe that Red dead redemption has more content in the disk so if it all comes down to a 1 winner, I think red dead redemtpion deserves it slightly more. It's got everything. Great...

^I think it's safe to say that you're right because you have to be drunk not to notice the connection delay on 3 bars on the ps3.

I have it on ps3. THE CONNECTION PROBLEMS ARE HUGE. 3 bars is unplayable. The delay between a 3 bar connection and a 4 bar is so big. Also there are connection issues and LAG with server on ps3. On youtube everyone owning both 360 and ps3 are saying that the 360 version is much smoother and has...

I was refering to instances when I said that you also have much less control when defending. Not exactly off the ball. But the movement. The general movement seems more strict than in fifa 10. This is not an opinion, this is what the game truly is. You feel that you have more control, when in...

It is my opinion when I said that I hate fifa 11. But the things I mentioned aren't an opinion. BTW I didn't come here to convert anyone.

Fifa 10 may have had the ping pong passing BUT 11 HAS THINGS MUCH WORSE. Scripting Players not responding to my command well Much less control when dribbling Predictable. REALLY PREDICTABLE. Passes aren't skill based. Passes are decided as hit or miss by the AI BEFORE THE PASS IS MADE. With...

It's not funny because football games are VANISHED. FIFA 11 IS INDEED THE WORST FOOTBALL GAME EVER MADE. Not trying to start a pes vs fifa war as I haven't played pes 11. I'm just saying that fifa 11 is broken to a point where it deserves the title: WORST FOOTBALL GAME EVER MADE. It...

^Not exactly. BOTH RUN AT 720P. But the Xbox 360 has a built in upscaler that upscales a 720p resolution to 1080p. So in reality, you're just getting an upscaled image of a 720p image. So technically that wouldn't make a single difference. However, it has been proven that the xbox 360 (I have...

REAL MADRID ARE OVERRATED IN BOTH FIFA AND PES 11. BUT, not overrated in terms of individuals. In terms on indiividuals they're fine in both game and NOT OVERRATED. However konami forgot to ADD A THING to the game. You know what it is? TEAMWORK. EVERYTHING IS DEFINED BY THE INDIVIDUAL in...

What are you trying to prove here? The problem with him is that he OVERRATES FIFA WAY TOO MUCH and won't admit the obvious faults. That makes him look like a fifa fanboy who can't take negatives towards his fifa. Note that there are some here that do this to pes too. THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE...