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I never said I trusted them, but I was surprised by the amount of positive feedback so far. Last year it was more like a 50%-50% between good and the same. I will also judge when I play it though. Same with fifa.

There are too many bad quality videos. So you cannot judge the game speed especially. I've seen only 1 video of a full match with pretty good quality. The speed seems fine. Actually reminded me of pes 6's speed. Slightly faster than 5, but not fast like pes 10. BTW over 90% or even over 95%...

I don't have PSN+ sadly, so if someone can post detailed impressions (after the excitement has ended ;) ) or possibly a video, it would be much appreciated. :) And pls, compare it to pes 10 or fifa 10.

I have both consoles and I like them both so I can answer. In the end, it's up to you, and what controller you prefer. In my opinion, FOR pes, I would go for ps3. Reason being that you can edit much more easily with the image transfers. I always get racing titles for the X360 though because...

Why do we take reviews so seriously? Seriously, read them to see other's views not to help you decide. Anyway looking forward to the demos so that I can play pes and fifa head to head to see which is better. BTW to tell you the truth, I've seen most improvement from pes this year, but I am...

^On the front page it mentioned that we'll play as Bayern munich, barcelona, and 2 copa libertadores teams. I am not sure it's it's 100% correct though.

So the demo for the normal ps3 users will be released on september 15th? Great. It shows how much konami are willing to compete with fifa this year. I hope it'll be good. I believe that the 360 demo will be released on the same day as the normal ps3 users.

Maybe there was some sort of lag? Anyway, the demo will answer this question hopefully.:)

. I totally agree with this unclefredo. BTW I also agree that RIGHT NOW, FIFA IS THE BETTER GAME. It's harder, smoother and overall a much less NOOB game than pes. But when you start to see beyond this point, you'll realize that fifa only hide it's glitches and weak points with good...

Pes 10 did make a step forward after pes 09, though not that huge. But CLEARLY pes 08 was the worst not pes 10. In pes 08, the speed was so fast, and the defending was really bad that you could basically dribble the whole pitch. At least pes 10 reduced that. Even though it created other...

^Yes I am still unsure about the defending, however it still looked better to defend than pes 08, 09 and 10. Though I've seen some awesome defending from some gamescom videos. But then again, I've seen bad defending from other videos. I believe that the demo will answer this because there are...

First of all, this doesn't happen to only pes unfortunately. And second, I think we all need to calm down and judge when we get our hands on it. So far, this thread's message isn't confirmed by konami so it's a rumour. I mean, I hope it's true, but I doubt it.

^Until konami confirms it, posts like that are considered as rumours.

We can't confirm it's false, just like we can't confirm it's true. UNTIL WE HAVE A PROPER CONFIRMATION FROM KONAMI, THESE WILL REMAIN AS RUMOURS. But on a side note. I hope that's true because that'll truly be ultimate freedom. ;)

^Let's hope that the defence system is sorted and finally we can all prevail on those who abuse of the R1 button. ;) BTW, I saw some gamescom videos on youtube if someone wants to check them out and they were with high level teams like Inter and Real.

^Very true, that's why I still have doubts in defending. But then again, the defenders are very low skilled aswell so maybe that's the balance. ;) Let's hope it's as balanced as pes 5.

Can we discuss what's being shown here? The gameplay and online. ;) Well from the video I can comment on a few things but again, it's just a video and not a good quality ones. So the framerate will suffer for it resulting in a different paced video as opposed to the real thing. So let's leave...

^I write in caps NOT TO SHOUT, BUT TO EMPHASIZE. :) BTW, we need to see MLO in action before we make judgements. I think that's the safe approach and most fair I believe.

But if they lose, they won't be able to keep them. And besides, their wages will be really high, so you won't be able to keep all those players. If the game will be really difficult in terms of keeping all the stars, then it's fine. But in the end, I think it will be difficult to keep on...

^I disagree. More challenge is a welcome and a bonus because like in real life. Get good results, which in terms mean more money, and then you can invest. But fail results, and you won't be able to get good players. If there was a system where anyone can pick out a team, anyone would be...