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how can they, they were only able to give a 70% build for review...!!

you may commence your excuses people............

I thought fifa09 was actually better for player individuailty while playing clubs, its true that while playing as the whole team you cant feel the difference as much as you can in PES, but in clubs the players really came to life for me.... I played as Fabergas, Rooney, Totti and Nihat in my...

it all reminds me of around the year 1998, fifa 97-98 stood as king of all football games for PS1....i had been playing ISS before but it wasnt til later on in its PS1 days that it really started to challenge the top of console football games... there was a few years where Fifa and iss(pes)...

There are two prevailing theories in contemporary philosophy which attempt to explain the nature of concepts (abstract term: "conception"). The representational theory of mind proposes that concepts are mental representations, while the semantic theory of concepts (originating with Frege's...

lol, well i care about the concept....its dated..!!!

of course its not going to play exactly the same... Seabass himself says its made for the Japanese market then adapted for europe, this is why i dont think it will ever really hit the spot for me again.... their whole concept of how the gameplay should be just isnt my cup of tea anymore...

Realise that one of the main reasons people actually started playing fifa is that it was different..!! LOL, are you sure you've even played fifa ??? or iss for that matter ??? Anyway if pes2010 does play like fifa and you all love it, i guess we all owe a monumentally huge THANK YOU to...

just read the preview, this bit was bit strange..... "But how does it play? How does PES 2010 feel when you actually play a pass, shoot at goal or try in vain to break cover star Lionel Messi’s legs? The answer is… like FIFA"

Lol, i see where your coming from, i believe that PES2010 will be the best PES ever made... Unfortunately the Kingdom has evolved...! :shocking:

"Theres no hope".....urm um oh wait, "theres hope" :mellow:

hmm, seems like someones imagination got the better of them...

oh Frenchy, your so strange...

thats exactly what it will come down too....:)

With regards to hope, i cant understand why all you pes bummers are so worried... Form what ive seen, heard and read PES2010 looks to me like it will be the best PES ever made.... whether it will make my personal top spot is another thing....;)

yeah i cant believe PSM3 gave PES09 9/10.....:erm:

:w00t... yes mate jockeying isnt important in football.... lol, you could be......no no, infact you are, the stupidest person ive come across on this forum....

Dont get me wrong pes of old were great games, i played pes6 last month, still fun to play... *realism* is what i'm talking about, making it more realistic (if you dont love that) means taking away some of the fun and excitment for a user and forcing them to create it more for themselves...

OH dear, i hope not... if its like ISS PES4/5 then i really am worried..!!!! :(