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Thats just it Konami are caught between a rock and a hard place..!! They need to see which is the biggest fan base for them.. I think EA have got all the hardcore realism peeps and aint going to give um up easy, where as Konami have all the gamer type people who enjoy the more computer...

Thats what i cant understand, animations were so hyped up..!!!

yeah i can understand why you think it might be possible, but the momentum of the ball and angle of the player is differernt... trust me when your running down the wing with a ball and you kick it how messi does in pes the ball would not react like that...

Also to put any swing on a ball your foot needs to come around it to put the spin on it...

what min ??? do you mean when Modric crosses the ball back for Keane(i think) to head at the keeper... if so thats not the same...

i hope you dont mean what Modric did on the weekend..???

only ones with earth gravity...

Indeed..!!!

dont need to ive seen it done in real life mate...

no way the messi cross is possible, the running angle and body angle is all wrong the speed of the ball and the way it moves through the air is wrong too.... yes its possible to cross with the outside of the foot but not like that, he stabs at it like a chip...

Gamersyde vid is really unrealistic football... why cant they get decent players... the Cross from messi is a Joke

Too true, i heard that their holding the international retard convention in the room next door and a few of um seemd to have wandered over to Konami and EA stands,...!!!

LOL, dont worry Pes2011 will be the the best game ever hehe and round and round we go.... It does look better than 09 and im sure it will play better too... I just think there wasting money on player faces that you only see in cut scenes really and animations that dont look much improved...

I was shocked too, i really thought it would look better.. :shocking:

yup, seems like robots again... its the same as always improved, but nothing ground breaking... After all the hype bout animations they are a huge let down.... A Jockey button is a must for realism for me now, it just dosnt seem to play like a real game without it... i'll still give...

yup i agree, its more baby steps by the looks..... Better than 09 no doubt but just dont seem to be enough....

Thats the biggest problem with Football computer games 65%+ of the people that play them are retarded and dont undertsand how football is played...

Hey Tech_Skill..... Hmm, TBH its not looking too good to get me back on board, i'll just have to wait for the demo.... Is there a Jockey button..?????

All the fun has been squeezed out of this thread, it was fun for a while but if i cant play with the stupid people theres not much need to come on here.. i dont want to play pes2009 anymore and doubt i will play pes2010..!!! 15 years of joy, thanks Konami...2 years of hurt, hello EA...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ anyway *Tech_skill* (nobody else *need* reply) have you ever watched a match on TV after playing fifa and been amazed at so much they got right??? and how it makes pes look even less like real football??