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Play slow and use the 360 dribbling. But make sure you press the speed at the right moment aswell because if you time it wrong the Defenders will TAKE IT I KNOW IT'S HARD, BUT YOU CAN GET USED TO IT. :) It's because of response times aswell.

^I guess we have to wait for the full release then.

That's my thoughts exactly.

But on wenb they said it was there or am I missing something?

^How do we know of space for emblems??? Anyway, if it's like last year, I am happy enough and editing nationalities is not such a big deal. I know it's for bundesliga mostly. But can't you just create new players and put them in that team? That way the nationality will be editable.

^It's more than tweaking at all. It's fixing what was broken. You can tweak something already good. And for Christ sake. stop quoting the bad points. Francis is 1 tester who didn't like it, but there are many more that liked it. I will never agree with francis even if I am referring to the we...

^Shut up about a patched pes 09. Look deeper and it's not Differences between pes 09 and we 10 demo Defence is much better (1st major problem in pes 09) AI is harder (2nd major problem in pes 09) AI positioning is better (though it can be better) Shooting is better Dribbling can't be used all...

Francis doesn't visit this forum often but he is eligible to what i am saying. But there are others that write in the forums like ceysin or some guys at pesfan. Some at WENB aswell. They are eligible aswell and many are saying that the game is great.

Well it has some truth in it.:) But I cannot fully agree either because we know that certain licenses can't be in Konami's hands right now. But an edit mode is really important for most games because it makes the game's life span longer. You know, faces, kits, updating player's hairstyles...

Agreed with OP. Afterall reviewers are people like us. They probably didn;'t give both fifa and pes a try in depth and for me, they are not to trust. It's better to hve someone, a member on a forum that you can ask as he plays is everyday and so he can give better reviews than most others as he...

^Emm there was review that was 9.5 for pes 10. There were other for pes 6 which gave fifa a higher score that year. Reviews are opinions and nothing too serious. Also for the LAST TIME NOW. I never said that pes 10 will be without flaws. I'l comment about them for sure, but it's a good game...

^fifa fanboys or pes 10 haters.

^I mentioned the good ones because you always commented on the bad ones. I am not a fanboy. Jesus. If I had the final copy I would have wrote a review here. You are not being normal right now because you're being way too picky and annoying. Accept the good reviews and bad ones and go on. Stop...

^It sounds nothing like that. I saw more 8/10's in most reviews which is good but still they're opinions. Edit take a look. Many are giving pes an 8. PSM3 UK Magazine 89 BeNe Official Playstation Magazine: 83 gameradio : 82 3djuegos: 8 multiplayer : 8.7 Gamereactor.de 9/10 hardgame2: 80...

thanks ceysin. Great review, you mentioned the good and the bad points. Now that's a fair review. So is the overall gameplay better than the we demo? I see they fixed through balls which is great and was needed. Thanks.

It's not enough and I still don't trust that. Fifa has been out for more than a weekend aswell.

Well licences matter for those who don't use edit mode but this year, the edit mode seems to solve all of last years design problems. Great. :)

^I am not sure but I do not think so.

^yeah true. Glad to see it in the game aswell.

Yeah the faces are great.