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I will give my opinion once I get the game (next week ) and play it well. I do not ahve a reason to lie and as for the thread. EVER HEARD OF OPINIONS?

ANOTHER PENALTY THREAD??? lol No its not the only way. Either search the forum or youtube next time. Herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B2cbYFr7Nw Watch that tutorial. It is really helpful.

I have been seeing pes 2010 in youtube and we all know that because of framerate the videos will be a little faster than they truly were and I saw it the same as the demo. Anyone who says it's way too fast either hasn't watched recent football, or has something wrong in his setup. Fifa 10 on...

^I do not know.

Yeah.:) Also, there were scripting in pes 08 and 09. Those games were absed on luck mostly because the momentum shift was decided by the cpu.

From the we 10 demo, the scripting is much less. But I agree that scripting happened most in BAL and ML.

I can never understand those who say pes 10 is fast paced and unrealistic. Even from the demo, I can 100% definately say that it is not fast paced. Take a look at real football. Nowdays football isn't slow anymore. Oh and fifa 10 is not a total simulation either. Pes 10 and fifa 10 both nail...

They weren't there in pes 09. Take a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3yOQLnQKLg&feature=related

They weren't there in pes 09. Take a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3yOQLnQKLg&feature=related

Thank you. That's really good news. I am still a bit new to the ps3 so thanks.:)

^That's good. It was a major concern with BAL last year.

But with system data not copied, can you still get the kits? Because you copy the kits, but will they be correct in edit mode? You know you have to do the kit in edit mode and then the logos. so does system data include edited shirts from edit mode or that's another story?

^Yeah that's what I liked about your review. Not biased at all. :) I agree with what you said basically.

^Why is it 2 steps back? They took the old camera away, but implemented a much better system for penalties? it seems like 2 steps forward and 1 back. I personally didn't bother with the new camera as serie A matches sometimes has the same camera. I had another pen with messi and I managed to...

ML and BAL I suppose right? I agree with the OP. Konami must release a patch.

^Sometimes I got 8.0 and in the following game my form suddenly went violet (bad). It happened more than once so it was obviously scripted to a certain point.

^I am using wireless and COD5 is laggy aswell for me. Wireless on ps3 = lag on most games. I do not get lag everytime, but it happens.

The speed of the connection and game lag in online are different things. In most games I play (call of duty 5 for example) it depends on my connection and the host's connection. so I expect the same thing with pes.

With the help of that video (on the we 10 demo though) I am managing to score some great penalties. You just need to practice them and they're satisfying in the end.

Good to hear it, but does it feel scripted like pes 2009? In that game your form is scripted no matter how well you're playing.