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Well if pes 10 can fix the responsivness, some weird positioning and passing (through balls especially) I believe it'll be a great game. In my opinion, the responsivness is causing all the problems. Fifa 10 demo is great but it has problems too which I want fixed.

Wait for the final release and then comment please. It's more fair.

^Same thing is happening to me. :)

Fifa fans cannot admit 1 good thing about pes. I will not even begin to bother to answer them.

Yeah it is more difficult than pes 09 for sure. But it takes time to get used to.

Forget responsivness. It is supposed to be fixed. I just cannot say anything right now on the pes demo because responsivness kills the action. But still much better overall play than pes 09. The passing and response have been improved in the latest code. So we can hope (responsivness kills the...

That's just you and fifa fans like you. I like both games. So far fifa demo is better because it's more complete. But the video of the review code (90% build) is looking really good and the response has improved so maybe in the end we will have 2 great football games. And I believe we will. BTW...

I would have preferred if they weren't in gameplay but in edit mode or something like that because some lighting can make the screen a bit difficult. Anyway good comparison though.:)

^Ofcourse there has been. It has been confirmed that online will be based on pes 6 and that it'll be better than pes 09.

^The demo is not as bad as some are saying. The biggest problem is response time which is supposed to be fixed. So there is still hope.

^Do you realise he's mocking pesfectstrike for saying that the review code is better than the gamescom demo.

^The goal variations are much better in pes 10 than in pes 09 so far. Well the response needs fixing for sure. But according to the review code (the demo we have is al old build) the response times are much better.:)

^LOL about Buffon. You should have watched him today against Livorno. SUPERMAN and I truly mean it.:laugh::D

I just cannot agree about pes 10's pace. Fifa's pace is a BIT slower not much slower. I can't see why some would say that pes is at 100mph while fifa isn't. It's just not right. And about shooting. The only thing better in fifa's shots are the Finesse ones but other than that, pes' shots are...

Yeah it gave me hope aswell. It seems to have better passing aswell. It also seems more fluid. If the response is truly fixed, I'll be happy. Oh there's also much less AI freezing. :D

^It happens lesss, much less on the ps3 version. Or maybe I didn't notice it that much. Just played both fifa demo and then pes demo. BOTH are good and bad in some ways. At the moment fifa demo feels more complete (because of pes' bad response which is suppose to be fixed). In my opinion, if pes...

I agree with some points but not on scoring. In pes there's more variety of goals. Sure fifa has more animations, but you cannot always score them because of the defence. But fifa 10 improved on this aspect.

^And the sometimes weird positioning of the defenders. But overall, pes 10 grows on you unlike pes 09. The goal variation at least is back and with added animations we'll have more variation for sure. As for the demo faults. Yes I admit and agree with some of you. But the major one is the...

^Aleast, it's not as bad as it was in pes 09 as it doesn't happen often. I played many matches and it didn't happen on mine for example. BTW pes 10 IS NOT AS BAD AS SOME ARE SAYING.. I played on professional and top player and it seems that the AI cheats less and the game is harder. But some...

^Go to the fifa thread. I sort of agree. The response is making the game feel awkward at times. But my main concern is that at times some AI defenders freeze for 1 sec and that causes the defence gap. I hope it gets sorted out.