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It's what makes it pointless arguing any case about either game 90% of the time. It can always boil down to "Yes, this feature is in FIFA, but who's to say it didn't start in PES with Dave the developer?" - And that's correct, RAMAXWY. We're not gonna know a definite answer to most of the...

But the fact is, if the set-piece editor goes over well, Konami will want to implement it themselves. There's nothing wrong with that either. They want to make their game as successful as possible, and if they think a set-piece editor is what fans like, that's what they'll get. I'm sure...

Think about it. I'm not saying FIFA got the whole thing right, but they're on the right track with it. When teams play against smaller clubs, to begin with it can be difficult to break them down (see: Liverpool last season, for example) whereas the bigger teams have better players and are...

Use the quotations then, instead of making pointless, MSN like posts.

No. Playing against the lower league teams is definitely different. They tend to rely on the long ball a lot more and seem content enough with what they have when the game starts, as far as the score goes. The bigger teams attack you more, which is why sometimes it leads to easier games...

I know, but every single day you point out how bad PES is looking like it's going to be compared to FIFA and it turns into one big argument with different people. We're better off just waiting for both games and then discussing it. Even then, guys will stick on the side of the game they play...

Acutally, in FIFA 09 you can notice a huge difference between playing the big sides to the smaller, lower league ones by the style of football they play. And be careful guys, I'm all for PES/FIFA debates, just keep them friendly. :)

You're fine to big FIFA up as much as you like in this thread, but however much you hammer it home in the PES section, it isn't going to work. Face it.

My god, they are shit.

This isn't going anywhere. ads, you're clearly waiting for sameh to flame you. If anyone is going to do this for him, PM the guy in question with a link of some sort to it. Closed.

Indeed, and if Pantilimon does have a response to your message, do us all a favour and take that discussion to PM. :)

Alright, Mr. Negativity. :P

Wouldn't that make your own team's AI play even worse though, too?

PLEASE GUYS. No FIFA is shit, PES is awesome talk, or vice versa. Everyone's tired of reading about it.

If you approve of the guy's post so much, rep him. There's no need to make a post consisting of "lmao".

No naming and shaming please. :)

Ummmm, I'm guessing this is the wrong section, considering Konami know what's going to be in their game. I'll move it to 2010 discussions for now, but I'm pretty sure this is ...very old news. If someone backs me up on that, I'll quickly close it. :)

Isn't it just amazing how, now that PES has 360 dribbling confirmed, fans are saying it would've been "buggered" had FIFA been the only game that had it, when a couple of weeks ago it was just a minor addition in most PES fans' eyes. This is one of the things I agree with Tech Skill on...

*insert facepalm emo here*

Cry. I'm dreading the day this happens to me. Bound to come sooner or later.