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^So you played the new build? And it was much better? Great. Tech and ronaldo, you need to understand that the game was at 50% and animations weren't in yet, they were there, but not in the build (50% one) that the testers played.

^I agree about animations that's why it's from the 50% build. Finally someone positive. As for R9NALD9 Look deeper instead of slating. That's your problem, you judge without looking deeper. It is from the 50% build. I am almost 100% positive at least according to wenb. As for the gameplay. It...

The sliders will definately work. At least I'll get much more playtime with my ML. Judging on that video. It looked like the 50% build with sliders and cards. But I am not sure. If you look close, the defending is much better, they close more, and it is harder to dribble past every defender. At...

^I do not think so though.

^How can you be so sure? But if it's true, then it's great aswell because the game will be much better in terms of player likeness.

Good to see a video. At least something we can discuss about. :) As for the news. According to WENB the news will be not this wednesday (tommorrow) but next week. Is it true?

What's that about because I cannot see it.:(

^Me too.;)

Pes 09 is FULL of flaw not 5 and 6. Play them again and see the difference when compared to real football. Pes 5 and 6 were even better than fifa 09 in some cases and considering that they were released in 2005-2006, they deserve more praise. So now, if you want to compare pes 5 or 6 vs pes 09...

True. It doesn't seem fair to pes fans who hate fifa. As for the 50% playtest. I already said this. But the playtest wasn't actually bad. It was the one on this site that said that he expected more. But according to wenb (who were more than 1 person) said that the feeling is back and it's...

Both games will copy from each other as both games have something good and something bad so no big deal and no need to argue. BTW the tester on this site was one of the few who complaied about pes 10 because at wenb, they said that considering it was pes 09 with few things implemented, it was...

^Well, who knows. I hope we get some interesting news.

NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MY ARGUMENT. I understood what you said, but you failed to understand what I said. I never denied that pes has assisted passing. I said that in pes 5 (not others, well maybe pes 6 too), the cpu decided the pass BASING ON PLAYER'S PASSING SKILL. That is a great thing even...

^Not to sound like I am defending someone but: That's wrong. Totally wrong. THE CPU DECIDED BASING ON PLAYER'S SKILL in pes 5. That brings player individuality. Something totally missing in fifa. For example. In pes 5, I can play Pirlo and I would know I am playing with him because his through...

^For ps2, go with pes 6 or 5. BTW that post about fifa's lack of things is really well said, even though I think that fifa 09 is a better game overall than pes 09.But fifa 09 has it's own MAJOR ISSUES. Yeah, true.

True. But overall gameplay in fifa 09 is still better than in pes 09, but still it's not quality enough especially for a ps3.:( Fifa has it's own major problems that weren't mentioned in online reviews or forums.

^True. Speed is also overrated in fifa 09. Dribbling technique doesn't count because you can't dribble past defenders. I mean it's so hard that it becomes unrealistic. In reality, defenders are beaten many times in a match, but that depends on the situation. In fifa 09 that situation is so rare...

I agree about dribbling but still it is really hard and I get way too angry because Messi or ronaldo can surley make it much easier than it is on fifa 09. Even when I time my moves excactly, either because or responsivness (which was lacking in 09) or because of super AI defending (press X and...

I don't know but from that build, in fifa 10, you still can't beat a defender with moves. In reality C.Ronaldo is surley much faster to make moves with the ball. Fifa can never understand this. You can't feel like you're playing with ronaldo because of that. But aaprt from that major things...

^Still, we should wait and see. Wait for an official announcment or gamescom.