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It looks cool, it's meant to come out around the same time as pes4 but there's loads of stuff on this and none on pes. hopefully we'll get some pics etc soon...

I hope they don't deceive us again by putting someone on the front who's not actually in the game. if that is the case though, let's pray for trevor brooking to be on the cover!

I'd agree with that, it's the best sports game imo but there are other games i have which i prefer as a whole. manhunt, gta: vice city, etc.

I played it today in woolworths and it feels and looks identical to fifa 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004...... Great graphics and rubbish gameplay, why aren't i surprised?

No not as far as I know. You just have to hope someone tries to buy him. I always accept any offer i get for the statring ML team. maybe if you play him they'll be more likely to make offers?

you get some transfer points from friendlies too, it can be helpful if you're desperate but i usually skip them.

My mate told me he got a pen when the com handballed it but i never believed him, maybe i should do now. its so inconsistent, i have saved replays where they practically punch it off the line and nothing happens but there's other times where they kick it straight at you and get a free kick...

As the discussion descends into stupidity...

pes3 obviously. ea sports games are shite in comparison to the pes/we series.

they need to make the kit editior more extensive, i just rented TIF2004 and the amount of kits you can choose from is amazing. you don't have to choose a whole shirt you can edit the collar,sleeves etc. thats what pes needs. the increase in teams gets me more excited everytime i read it.

I generally just use a 4-4-2 and then tweak individual player positions depending on who you've got. I pride myself on my defence so I barely ever let in more than one goal so that way you have to play a passing game and be patient and wait for a breakthrough. I also try to use pacey players...

The first lot of info sounds really good though, i'm assuming the majority of it will find its way into pes4? loads more teams would be wicked.

I tried a world cup on 5* with china and got to the semi and lost 1-0 to Australia and then 1-0 to Brazil in the 3rd place playoff, i only scored about 3goals in the whole thing though...

I find i draw almost all my games 0-0 if i try to do the whole thing with the default team, its just too hard to score. i reckon you'll win the div2 cup though.

you can do it on play.com already, 39.99 i think

I've played as china against brazil on 5* 5mins before and i lost 1-0 with a last minute winner.

humans for me by a long way, my mate bought a rugby game yesterday and the human v human competition on that is far bigger than pes3 cos you're physically fighting them. i rarely play pes3 against the cpu now either. roll on pes4!

i like the san siro or the stade delle alpi best, they look the best

on my ML man united frequently think its a great idea to put c.ronaldo in goal.

is it any easier? the last one was too hard which meant i had to simulate innings to have a chance.