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The only long balls I play are using :L1: + :triangle: to do a high through ball. It can be really effective if you have a player making a forward run. Distance isn't always too great though.

On the game they are the best in their respective positions that's why I use them.

I'm doing a best of the Premiership ML at the moment: Van Der Sar De La Cruz Hyypia Campbell Babayaro Vieira Ljungberg Pires Okocha Henry Kewell...

I've never really used Rooney cos I don't play with everton and i play Alan Smith up front for England. He should be quick but thats about it. Aggression too.

What players do people think will be vastly changed from pes3 to pes4? I keep coming across players who seem nowhere near as good as they should be. For example: Cudicini C. Ronaldo Duff Mutu Toure Kenny Miller Defoe Howard Henry! - Only 5/8 for wrong foot accuracy Martins (Inter)

That sounds fun Could be useful in 2player mode too! I'll get practising...

yeah i knew about that but i never seem to be able to use it to my advantage. I usualy just mis-control the ball.

Christ, that sounds like one the ML teams I usually create. The best players usually get scattered around the place in my MLs.

At the moment I'm also playing Manhunt, SSX3 and T.H.U.G.

Doesn't that happen anyway? you can choose player aging at the start of you ML.

I swapped Kelsen and 3000 points for Van Der Sar. Don't ever buy Given he's useless.

I don't know if its been said but mud on the kits like we were promised for pes3.

Tudor in my ML for sure. He was my top scorer at one stage. Okocha's crosses and Tudor's headers. What a combo!

I do hope that was a joke. FIFa is actually shite let alone being anywhere near as good as pes3.

Maybe celery's the equivalent of prawn sandwiches at the bridge.

Renaming the cups, or having custom style cups might be good.

God I hate that Eric Sparrow. Backstabbing bastard.

I've only ever had a 9.5. I presumed that that was the highest you could get. I think the lowest i've ever seen is 2.5.

In my current master league Benfica got promoted to the first division with me and I drew them in the cup as well as the champs league so including the league thats 6 games. I drew 0-0 in the first league game (haven't played the second one yet), they knocked me out of the champs league and...

It must be Take The Apart - its stupid and spelt wrong. I'd probably choose the celery one but I've never seen it.